mkpdavies

One thing that comes up again and again when I talk to people, is the fact they now feel like they can no longer make a difference in the jobs that they do.

Police are too busy filling in forms, being careful not to infringe the criminals rights, doing roles they deem unimportant and dealing with managers and bean counters to provide stats to the government.

Nurses are too busy filling in forms, being careful not to get sued for offending someone in some way, doing roles they deem unimportant and dealing with managers and bean counters to provide stats for the government.

Teachers are too busy filling in forms, being careful not to get sued for offending some little brat who deserves to be expelled, doing roles they deem unimportant and dealing with managers and bean counters to provide stats for the government.

Apply the same common themes above to almost any public servant and you get a picture of why even though money has been thrown at these services, there is very little improvement and the work force is demoralised.

We need to make it clear that this is all going to change under UKIP. Change has not been good for the public services, it worked much better when people on the front line had responsablity for their roles. The only measurments we need to see is hard results, such as how many people come out of hospital alive and customer feedback.

Redeploy all the bean counters and cut a number of layers of management. Retrain those that want a real career so we have more nurses, ambulance men, officers or whatever. The rest can go and find a company that wants to be filled with lookers rather than doers.

Money will be saved, service will be better, people will be happier in their roles, customers will get a better services and the government will be able to get on with other things.

Trusting the people again should be one of our strongest policies!

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C_steam

Good one! I too would like to see that used.

Anthony Butcher

This is truly the core of UKIP's manifesto, but we don't press it anywhere near enough. We could improve life for public sector workers, dramatically improve efficiency and save huge amounts of tax money just by trusting people again. Forget the nonsense Tory policies about shifting money from one department to another, the real problem is that the state no longer trusts anyone.

The hurdle for us is putting this INTO phpbb_a simple but strong message. Every party promises to cut red tape. We need a way of differentiating our policy from everyone else's, and I think that it comes down to trust, but even that sounds wishy-washy.

Paul Birch

There is really only one way to accomplish this: return all welfare state functions to the free market (which could be done easily enough by spinning off the schools and hospitals etc. as independent trusts), restoring the status of the paying customer. Any attempted reform that falls short of re-introducing the discipline of a competitive bottom line will ultimately fail. People respond to incentives; and in a welfare or dirigist state the incentives are all wrong; the crucial process of Pareto optimisation is blocked.

Bryan Parry

I'm far from statist, but the job done in, say railways, and when we look abroad (e.g. America) does not exactly fill me with hope for a fully private world, Paul.

Anthony Butcher

The idea of privatising everything has been thoroughly discredited by both the Conservative and Labour governments. It has been consistently shown to provide worse services and worse value for money.

I am sure that there are some good examples, and in those cases the private system should be kept, but at the moment many PFI projects look like a shambles.

jp

Your electricity costs you a lot less than it would under a nationalised industry. Do you remember the hassle and lack of choice from BT when you wanted a phone? Do you remember when you couldn't run a lorry as they were nationalised (whoops you're probably not that old! )

Privatisation has its problems, bit its a lot better than how things used to be!

Anthony Butcher

That is why I said privatising "everything" is a bad idea. It works in some cases, but not others. Each case needs to be taken on its own merits. Paul was suggesting privatising everything.

Paul Birch

The railways have not been genuinely privatised, and America is almost as statist as here (in some respects even more so).

In any case, I wasn't calling for a "fully private" world, whatever that might mean, but for a free (ie., open, competitive, unpenalised and unsubsidised) market.

Bryan Parry

Fair enough, Paul.