Enforcer

Oh Mike.. You are the the resigned chairman of Bolton Branch that told Greg Beamen that Bolton BRanhc had been illegally wound up yet there are still three executive committee member that were neither informed nor consulted as to this winding up.

As said on National TV last night by Pretrina Holdsworth NEC chairman ONLY SHE can suspend branches.

You had no legal or consitutional authority or agreement from the committee that the branch was being or to be "wound up"

So on what authority did you have to call a wind up of the branch?

And on what authority did Greg Beaman or Alan Weddell have to do so either?

ANSWER= NONE.

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gilligan

So are you helping me with the leaflets, or will you be to busy giving media interviews.

Dave

Reply to the question Gilligan, why would you or anyone in this party wish to be so undemocratic.

Dave

Enforcer

Answer the question mike.

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EXACTLY MY POINT

this isnt about Robert Kilroy Silk any more, it is about THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS and the DEMOCRATIC Due process of the party REPRESENTING the MEMBERS.

ANSWER THE QUESTION MIKE

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For clarification, here is the course of events,

The Bolton Branch of UKIP have been in the process of holding an EGM after a ballot paper was sent out asking two questions. The Chairman Mike Ford (Gilligan) objected but the motion was carried by the committee to go ahead with the ballot. Whilst in the process of discussing and performing this ballot the branch has come under increasing pressure from regional. This include TAPED threats of withdrawal of funding and resignations through Gerald Kelly, (Paid aide to J Whittaker MEP) if indeed a ballot was to go ahead and Kilroy was selected through a national EGM.

Two weeks ago a meeting was requested by John and Gregg with he branch committee and initially no real reason was given then our chair claimed it was to be about topic we really had no focus on as a branch. Being a forward thinking branch we specifically told our chair to pass on the message to John Whittaker MEP and Regional organiser Gregg Beaman that Branch EGM business or the ballot was not up for discussion and we would uphold the DEMOCRATIC view of our members whatever that would be.

Then last week when one of our three PPCs went down to Exeter for “training” he was then approached by Gregg and John asking about the potential "feeling" of the branch and he indicated that there had been a democratic vote and the result was to be published at the Feb2 meeting. Then came a press release by Petrina Holdsworth about how RKS should resign and as a result that PPC resigned from the committee and party, agreed indeed are members not allowed to hold opposite views? That is democracy.

Then myself and our party secretary were asked by our Vice Chair what our position was., We both indicated we would consider this AFTER the Feb2 meeting (EGM).That day Our Vice chair and Chair decided to resign. That left on the committee myself our secretary, our treasurer who was still on the committee although she had taken a back seat and another Committee member. Then our secretary received an email communication from Greg Beaman that the branch had been suspended. On the same evening I myself received an email communication that the branch had been suspended and I was not to represent the party in any of my letters. Then we all travel down (Chair, Secretary, Resigned PPC, myself and one other ) to the Hinckley Golf Club to hear Kilroy Speak, at the end I get a live interview on News24 with Petrina Holdsworth NEC Chairperson
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I made the case for our members decision EGM and informed her that our branch had been suspended.

HER WORDS WERE AND I QUOTE

**** Sorry Ive ammended this

"I dont know about this, I am the only one in UKIP who can suspend a branch”

So there you have it If the NEC chair is the only person who can suspend branches Why has our branch been suspended illegally?

Today I get a letter from Gregg as a member saying that Our chairman has informed Greg that the branch has been formally "Wound up"

I would ask on whose authority ?

Certainly not mine and those of other existing committee members.

In an Email communication in response to Alan Weddells ( Regional Chair) email to me I did say I would resign if indeed the branch were to be "suspended" but only if it was legally suspended since that is not the case I am still Press officer for Bolton Branch.

Your sincerely

Ian Upton

UKIP Bolton Branch Press Officer
John Whittakers MEPs EX Press Officer.

Our Reference Materials

1. Emails from Gregg Beaman and Alan weddell Claiming branch has been suspended
2. Tape from Meeting with Gerald Kelly with his threats.
3. Letter from Greg Beaman now claiming the branch has been formally “wound up” (A contradiction to original email claiming suspension)


In light of potentially damaging comments made on the tape by our branch chair I would seriously suggest that Regional withdraw the comments immediately.

Quote Ian Upton 2005 “If you don’t tell lies you cannot be proven a liar, unless of course you are just deliberately trying to mislead”

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gilligan

Gentlemen life is to short, we are going round and round in circles, and i thought we had discussed this last night at the RKS show, however if i did not make myself clear then feel free to phone me after work, (i have a business to run) you have my number.

So back to the leaflet job are there any helpers.

Enforcer

ANSWER THE QUESTION MIKE>



More INFO on saga NOW our regional organiser is claiming he didnt SUSPEND the branch and that it was our chair who said it had been wound up.????????????


gbeaman@****(Removed).co.uk said the following on 21/01/05 09:49:

> The truth. The Branch was not suspended by me. The Chairman and Treasurer
> resigned as had Alan Ainscow, the Secretary had informed the Chairman of
> his defcision tio resign. Therefore no committeeno Branch.
>
> Shame you don't like the truth but I'm afraid that was exactly what happened
> as Mike *** will verify.
>
>
> -- Original Message --


Just for reference for people reading here Mike was our Chairman (Gilligan above)

My reply:-

WRONG.

THE TRUTH IS we have the email you sent to Dave our branch secretary saying the branch "had been suspended" I can send you a copy if you have forgotten you wrote it.

Either the branch has been illegally "suspended" by you or it has been undemocratically and illegally "wound up" by the resigned chairman which are you choosing from your correspondence Gregg you cant seem to make your mind up.

Also FYI the Treasurer had said she would be "stepping back" but told us she would continue on the committee and there is another member of the committee you have conveniently forgotten about along with other members which were voted in when Mike resigned.

Therefore the branch still stands and since only the NEC Chair can suspend the branch based on your correspondence you have acted illegally. We are in the process of selecting a New Chair.,

ASK the RESIGNED Bolton Branch CHAIR TO VERIFY THAT for you Gregg.

Ian Upton
UKIP Bolton Branch Press office

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gilligan

So i take it you wont be helping.

Enforcer

FOR THE THIRD TIME OF ASKING

Answer the question MIKE


Also ARE you setting up a ghost Bury/Bolton branch to try and steal the current bolton branch members you tony and gregg ?


Another question for you to answer so TELL THE TRUTH

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