Kilory-Silk quits 'charade' party

Dave · 21-01-2005, 12:18 AM

What other way was left open to him,

A good performance on "any Questions", what happened, another UKIP MEP, phoned "any answers" the following day and slagged him off, the message was lost, everything that RKS had them clapping and cheering, was gone by one of our own, yes it takes two sides to come to a compromise, but this is the only time RKS has publically slagged off the leadership, he has, you have to admit had more of a public slagging from the otherside.

Whether you see it the way I do or not, it is undeniable that skullduggery has taken place, and this thread will no doubt resemble something like a circle, will delve INTO phpbb_leadership comment, NEIN NEIN, MEIN GOTTEN HIMMEL, ZAT IZ FOR ZE VARZONE, UNT NOVHERE ELSE.

Dave

P.S You are not really a dictator

Intbel · 21-01-2005, 12:21 AM

All I want to know is - if RKS gives up his UKIP MEP seat - can I have it please?
Thank you very much.
I look forward to demonstrating to Nigel F. how to really get arrested

Intbel · 21-01-2005, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I truly believe RKS has shown why he was not the right man for the job.

Yes. He has now made this evident to all.
>sigh< he could have done things differently for his benefit, the benefit of the UKIP and inevitably - for the benefit of the British people.

Oh well ... it has been an interesting and entertaining interlude.

Now where were we ....

mkpdavies · 21-01-2005, 12:30 AM

Both sides have acted poorly. The damage is done now though.

UKIP is the only reasonble sized party with any chance of any success at this election. Yes we are damaged thanks to this farce, but there is nothing we can do about it now.

RKS and Vertias are not an option anymore, he has made it clear what his priorty is, and it isn't getting out of the EU.

I don't know how well we will do now, especially if the media give RKS a megaphone (which they will) to do as much damage as possible.

The leadership election next year is key for me now. All the main players in this argument are damaged.

Tom Wilde · 21-01-2005, 12:34 AM

I said from time to time in the past that in a leadership election, I would probably tend to support RKS. I said that knowing full well that RKS is by all accounts a total egotist, and an abrasive control freak. I decided that what he had to offer UKIP, and the country, probably outweighed the many drawbacks of having a pocket tyrant at the party's helm. I was never completely convinced about that, and I'm even less sure now - but either way, as RKS exits the building, it is good to be reminded of all the things I disliked about him. His departure is a sort of consolation prize for our wrecked unity and damaged election chances.

Quote:

"They had achieved their goal. They had got elected as MEPs. So off
they went to Brussels, with expense-account lunches and generous
subsidies, never to be heard of again. They were happy."

Here's the point in his statement where he tips over from slashing attack to outright untruth. UKIP's MEPs have already scored some very impressive points, but this prima dona is unwilling to give even an ounce of credit to his former colleagues.

karl4ukip · 21-01-2005, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkpdavies

You know what has happened here don't you.

Kilroy-Sulk is not only annoyed at the leadership, he is annoyed at the people who pushed him INTO phpbb_doing this. He was stroked and persuaded INTO phpbb_believing he would be leader of UKIP. He is now mad at those people who egged him on, because they failed.

He looked like a mug at Xmas when it came and went with no sign of him getting a vote. All the legal threats, all the promises that court action would take weeks not months. It was all hot air.

The Veritas thing was a last gasp attempt, and that failed too. He hates everyone at UKIP because of this.

To think this man could have been our leader! A manic, spoilt child who throws tantrums when he doesn't get his way.

Well done members of UKIP for being suspicious, you have been proven right!

Thats his fighting style. The public will appreciate that

Tom Wilde · 21-01-2005, 12:38 AM

And just because I haven't mentioned Roger Knapman or Nigel Farage in my foregoing tirade, don't think I hold them blameless. The leadership has consistently made a bad situation worse by its crass and heavyhanded attempts to prevent the leadership election which so many plainly wanted and which party unity plainly required.

B.A.Ware · 21-01-2005, 01:00 AM

Just got back for bewdley I m afraid nothing exciting happened, usual stuff about what’s going on in the European parliament by MN , RK spoke about general ukip stuff, results, Exeter, Dick Morris, targeting seats, paying for your own election expenses and a couple of digs at RKS like we are a party about polices not personalities, a party of something not somebody. Rustie the local candidate spoke about local polices.
Then mike took questions, first question was about RKS mike basically said he was a one man band with a big ego, he is showman, he wasn’t interested in what we were doing he didn’t bother, he didn’t contribute and none of the other MEPs will follow him, we did not throw him out he decided the party was not big enough for him, then followed with yes he did get us very good election results in the east midlands an extra 3% of the vote maybe getting two more MEPs that was more or less it. A question was asked when the manifesto was to be launched MK did not know so RK had to answer he said a potted version will be launched tomorrow and the full one will be soon. But not very soon. The only other really interesting question was someone asked RK “is there any chance of brining Paul Sykes back on board now RKS has gone” “yes”

It was okay not inspiring, if I was not a party member I don’t think it would have inspired me to join or even vote ukip.

mkpdavies · 21-01-2005, 01:03 AM

Did you hear the Natrass comment about Mandelson or was Anthony telling porkies again?

Just kidding Anthony! 8)

B.A.Ware · 21-01-2005, 01:06 AM

Yes he gave Mandelson a roasting

21-01-2005, 12:30 AM	#14 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,832 Party: Libertarian Party	Both sides have acted poorly. The damage is done now though. UKIP is the only reasonble sized party with any chance of any success at this election. Yes we are damaged thanks to this farce, but there is nothing we can do about it now. RKS and Vertias are not an option anymore, he has made it clear what his priorty is, and it isn't getting out of the EU. I don't know how well we will do now, especially if the media give RKS a megaphone (which they will) to do as much damage as possible. The leadership election next year is key for me now. All the main players in this argument are damaged. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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21-01-2005, 12:18 AM	#11 (permalink)
Dave Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 229	What other way was left open to him, A good performance on "any Questions", what happened, another UKIP MEP, phoned "any answers" the following day and slagged him off, the message was lost, everything that RKS had them clapping and cheering, was gone by one of our own, yes it takes two sides to come to a compromise, but this is the only time RKS has publically slagged off the leadership, he has, you have to admit had more of a public slagging from the otherside. Whether you see it the way I do or not, it is undeniable that skullduggery has taken place, and this thread will no doubt resemble something like a circle, will delve INTO phpbb_leadership comment, NEIN NEIN, MEIN GOTTEN HIMMEL, ZAT IZ FOR ZE VARZONE, UNT NOVHERE ELSE. Dave P.S You are not really a dictator

21-01-2005, 12:21 AM	#12 (permalink)
Intbel Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a field near you - look for the yellow and purple tent ... Posts: 4,665	All I want to know is - if RKS gives up his UKIP MEP seat - can I have it please? Thank you very much. I look forward to demonstrating to Nigel F. how to really get arrested

21-01-2005, 12:38 AM	#17 (permalink)
Tom Wilde Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: London. Posts: 2,887	And just because I haven't mentioned Roger Knapman or Nigel Farage in my foregoing tirade, don't think I hold them blameless. The leadership has consistently made a bad situation worse by its crass and heavyhanded attempts to prevent the leadership election which so many plainly wanted and which party unity plainly required.

21-01-2005, 01:00 AM	#18 (permalink)
B.A.Ware Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 4,495 Party: UKIP	Just got back for bewdley I m afraid nothing exciting happened, usual stuff about what’s going on in the European parliament by MN , RK spoke about general ukip stuff, results, Exeter, Dick Morris, targeting seats, paying for your own election expenses and a couple of digs at RKS like we are a party about polices not personalities, a party of something not somebody. Rustie the local candidate spoke about local polices. Then mike took questions, first question was about RKS mike basically said he was a one man band with a big ego, he is showman, he wasn’t interested in what we were doing he didn’t bother, he didn’t contribute and none of the other MEPs will follow him, we did not throw him out he decided the party was not big enough for him, then followed with yes he did get us very good election results in the east midlands an extra 3% of the vote maybe getting two more MEPs that was more or less it. A question was asked when the manifesto was to be launched MK did not know so RK had to answer he said a potted version will be launched tomorrow and the full one will be soon. But not very soon. The only other really interesting question was someone asked RK “is there any chance of brining Paul Sykes back on board now RKS has gone” “yes” It was okay not inspiring, if I was not a party member I don’t think it would have inspired me to join or even vote ukip.

21-01-2005, 01:06 AM	#20 (permalink)
B.A.Ware Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 4,495 Party: UKIP	Yes he gave Mandelson a roasting