algypug

Dick Morris - Appears like an American evangelical preacher. Much of what he says makes perfect sense, however, he got it horribly wrong on friday, when he was waxing lyrical about taking Tory votes. He never mentioned us taking votes from Labour or LibDem ! I personally voiced my opinion on this, and noted he changed his tune on Saturday ! Whether i had anything to do with this or not, i don't know. However, for a person with such high credentials, this catastrophic mistake can not be forgiven. He does not consider RKS setting up another party as a threat !!!!!! I fear he has again got this horribly wrong.

Nigel Farage - Was scathing of RKS, and understandably so ! :wink: After all, RKS stole the limelight from him ! Nigel is a very good orator, but as one observer stated, he lacks warmth. He thrives on adulation, the more he gets, the more his chest puffs out ! RKS would have seriously thwarted Nigel's ambitions, and i therefore suspect that personal ambition has seriously interfered with logical thinking in this case.

Roger Knapman - What can you say ? Here is what i consider to be an extremely nice man. But, nice is not good enough ! We need someone with all-consuming presence, and unfortunately, Roger doesn't have this. In his final speech yesterday, there was little content, he looked tired, and to be quite frank, he looked defeated.

For those of you who do not consider the RKS alternative as a threat, then you are going to regret your current position in the fullness of time. RKS is a massive threat, and my guess is, that UKIP members are about to leave in droves !

Anthony Butcher

I think that it is far too close to the general election for a new party to make any serious impact. They simply won't have the numbers, organisation or funds. I don't think that many people would transfer their allegiance to an unproven party for the moment.

After the general election, it might be a very different matter, depending on how well we do.

I suppose that it is also possible that a new RKS led party would actually bring publicity to UKIP... because the media would report on our rivalry.

Nigel Garage

I admire your loyalty and optimism Anthony, but from a journalist's point of view, UKIP is only a story because of Kilroy. I have friends in the national media, and they always tell me that UKIP is seen as nothing more than a joke. That changed in June, but the perception is now stronger than ever.

johnwest

You judgement is WRONG! RKS will fizzle out and take all those foolish enough to join him INTO phpbb_the political DEAD ZONE. He will take a handful with him. GOOD. We can then get rid of the dead wood!

algypug

John - are you growing any of that funny tobacco in Suffolk ?

johnwest

Algypug said 'Dick Morris - Appears like an American evangelical preacher. Much of what he says makes perfect sense, however, he got it horribly wrong on friday, when he was waxing lyrical about taking Tory votes. He never mentioned us taking votes from Labour or LibDem ! I personally voiced my opinion on this, and noted he changed his tune on Saturday ! Whether i had anything to do with this or not, i don't know. However, for a person with such high credentials, this catastrophic mistake can not be forgiven. He does not consider RKS setting up another party as a threat !!!!!! I fear he has again got this horribly wrong.' End quote.

RKS will spend the rest of his political career in the wilderness. Those foolish enough to follow will do the same. He will get a lot of publicity for a bit then fizzle out.


algypug said 'Nigel Farage - Was scathing of RKS, and understandably so ! :wink: After all, RKS stole the limelight from him ! Nigel is a very good orator, but as one observer stated, he lacks warmth. He thrives on adulation, the more he gets, the more his chest puffs out ! RKS would have seriously thwarted Nigel's ambitions, and i therefore suspect that personal ambition has seriously interfered with logical thinking in this case.' End quote.

You are dead wrong! I spoke to Nigel at the Exeter meeting. He was friendly, pleasant and willing to listen. RKS, on the other hand, was the total opposite at Bristol. HE is the one who thrives on adulation. the more RKS gets, the more HIS chest puffs out! HE is the one with warped thinking!

algypug said 'Roger Knapman - What can you say ? Here is what i consider to be an extremely nice man. But, nice is not good enough ! We need someone with all-consuming presence, and unfortunately, Roger doesn't have this. In his final speech yesterday, there was little content, he looked tired, and to be quite frank, he looked defeated.'End quote.

Roger made a great speech. He thinks about everthing he says before saying it. He was great to talk to on a one to one level. A great leader and an asset to UKIP!

algypug said 'For those of you who do not consider the RKS alternative as a threat, then you are going to regret your current position in the fullness of time. RKS is a massive threat, and my guess is, that UKIP members are about to leave in droves !' End quote.

You judgement is WRONG! RKS will fizzle out and take all those foolish enough to join him INTO phpbb_the political DEAD ZONE. He will take a handful with him. GOOD. We can then get rid of the dead wood!

johnwest

Such a comment shows how pathetic some people can get on this forum. If you don't have something sensible to say then don't bother. People who have lost the argument resort to insults.

Bluemerle

I'm with you John. We need a steady Leader, not someone who has a massive ego and only feeds on adulation.

RKS was a fool. If he had stuck to the job in hand for a year or so, he might have been made the leader of an up-and-coming, but he has decided to start a small party which will hardly register in the brains of the voters. Just like George Galloway's Respect, it will be insignificant.

I have had a couple of new members joining this week. They are in because RKS has gone.

algypug

John - i obviously touched a sore point with you. I am not going to get INTO phpbb_a slanging match with you, as frankly, it's not worth it. I have been sitting on the fence for some time now, and the observations i made, were personal. I at least try to sit back, and take a balanced view of all the facts and incidents available. There is no way i would have joined the back slapping brigade at Exeter. These people tend to get carried away with the euphoria of it all, and as a consequence, completely forget to sit back, and take stock. This, in some quarters, is called gross incompetance.
Sitting on the fence over the last few weeks has had it's advantages, but ultimately, a decision will have to be made, and as long as UKIP appear to have a number of tin pot dictators in their ranks, then there will only be one side of the fence i will fall on.
As a final word on this subject, and i have said this before on this forum, Knapman needs to get off the pot, and call a leadership election immediately, regardless of any EGM status, before he loses everything. Nero fiddled as Rome burned etc etc etc.

Bobby-Veritas's Boy

RKS brought creditability to UKIP as another writer said the Party was considered a joke. RKS's arrival on the scene made people sit up and take notice, he brought a much needed freshness with him. Most importantly his presence led to many former Labour members coming across, which untill then was a definate no no. With former Labour members comes former Labour voters, who quite frankly you as a party have kicked in the teeth. If RKS starts a new Party then I wish him luck, I don't know if they'll get any MP's, but I'm sure they'll secure more votes than UKIP. There are none so blind as those who will not see!