UKIP MEPs Lead Strasbourg Protest Against EU Constitution

mkpdavies · 12-01-2005, 02:58 PM

http://www.ukip.org/abc_news/gen12.php?t=1&id=1179

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As the European Parliament in Strasbourg today (12.1.05) voted overwhelmingly in favour of the EU Constitution, some stalwart British MEPs, including those from the UK Independence Party took part in a major protest alongside fellow MEPs from Poland and the Czech Republic.

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A major publicity event celebrating the Constitution had been prepared with the unfurling of banners on the Parliament building and the release of gigantic balloons but organisers had failed to seek clearance from the air traffic authorities and could not release them and protestors from the eurosceptic ID group, some UK Conservatives and the Czech ODS party took over the show. Prominent among the protestors holding 'No, Non, Ne and Nei' balloons and 'Not in My Name' posters were the MEPs Jeffrey Titford, Tom Wise, Mike Nattrass, Derek Clark, John Whittaker Graham Booth and Godfrey Bloom. Four UKIP MEPs draped Union Flags from their office windows. Commission President Manuel Barroso and his entourage were surrounded by chanting and singing protestors with banners and flags as they passed by.

Thats the way to do it. Hijack every crummy event they try to put on! We should do the same for the elections, hijacking prominent mainstream party members appearances with protests!

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Jeffrey Titford MEP, UKIP’s European Parliamentary Whip, commenting on the vote said: "The vast majority of the electorate in Britain are solidly opposed to the EU Constitution and yet here we see 500 MEPs in this discredited and shameful institution, like sheep voting in favour of it. What of the wishes of the British people with only 78 MEPs representing them, many of whom voted in favour? This is not what I call democracy".

Spot on!

mkpdavies · 12-01-2005, 03:08 PM

Again what this incident shows loud and clear, is the press are totally in the pocket of the political elite. Not a whimper out of any of the main news sources. If it had all gone off smoothly though, we would have seen loads of glorious images, with rousing euro-anthems blazing out.

We are being led like sheep INTO phpbb_a nanny state, time to stop taking orders and push back!

jp · 12-01-2005, 03:10 PM

The voting was:

500 in favour
137 against
40 abstained.

When you think of the nature of the "european parliament", with all the gravy - train riders, hardly a ringing endorsement!

Grim Reaper · 12-01-2005, 03:54 PM

Some in the press have tried to do some stories (The Times story about the waste of £262,000 for the Constitution party etc.), but on the whole they have been very quiet. Do not forget Peter "Goebels-like" Mandelson is now in the commission and has undoubtedly been involved in the "news management" of this event w.r.t. the British media. I agree, we should try to hijack every news event we can starting today. I also think we should put out another poster campaign attacking the big three for riding the gravy train, since it appears the pre-election band wagon has now started to roll.
Well done to our MEP's who stood against it all.

jp · 12-01-2005, 07:22 PM

Good quote from RK on this:

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If the (EU) commission cannot persuade more than 75 percent of MEPs to support the constitution, then what sort of results can we expect in the referendums when the general public, who have less of a vested interest in the result, can give their opinion honestly?" said UKIP leader Roger Knapman.

Picked up from a turkish website:

http://www.turkishpress.com/world/ne...7.5zcq1l1n.xml

Will it appear in the UK?

Intbel · 12-01-2005, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jp

http://www.turkishpress.com/world/ne...7.5zcq1l1n.xml
Will it appear in the UK?

Note this from th Straw Man:

"It is the patriotic choice to go for the EU constitution," he said ...

Wasn't this the same eejit who said "I think it is unpatriotic to go abroad for Christmas."

The man's as daft as a Bush.

Talking of which, I hear G.W. is waging a war on Tsunamis - when he has found Tsunami on the map, that is.

"We cannot and must not allow these Tsunamians to continue this wave of terror."

Biscuitman · 12-01-2005, 10:14 PM

You'd best send Dubya an e-mail...

He's looking for the Tucsan Army in Arizona!!

Bluemerle · 13-01-2005, 09:13 AM

The EP reported that the vote in favour of the above was "overwhelming" but this report indicates an underwhelming result for something of such huge significance.

News reaches me from Sweden that their constitution requires there to be 2 referenda with a general election between them, if any change to their constitution is proposed - now that's how to protect one's constitution !! It will be interesting to see how the jobsworths get around that one.

Many Czech, Polish and UK MEPs vote against Constitution
13.01.2005 - 09:45 CET | By Lucia Kubosova
EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS – As a new member state, Poland had the highest percentage of MEPs not supporting the European Constitution during a vote on Wednesday (12 January).

Out of a total of 54 Polish MEPs, 38 either voted against (35.8%) or abstained (35.8%) from voting on a report endorsing the new Constitution.

The Czech Republic had the highest percentage actually voting against (68.2%) with no abstentions.

Most of them came from the Civic Democrats party (ODS). This main opposition party in the Czech Republic, which was founded by well known Eurosceptic and current President Vaclav Klaus.

The third country with such high votes against was the UK with 58.9% against and 1.4% absentions.

If citizens were to follow the pattern of these votes during a national referendum on the Constitution, it would cause a political crisis in the EU.

While the UK and Poland are set to hold a referendum, it is still not certain whether the Czech Republic will. The opposition ODS is trying to push forward a bill to allow a referendum.

However, during the vote yesterday MEPs from some countries, such as Slovenia and Lativa, voted entirely in favour.

Similarly, most Spanish MEPs, whose country is to be the first to have a referendum on the Constitution on 20 February, voted in favour. Just three voted against.

Anthony Butcher · 13-01-2005, 11:48 AM

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Statement by Nikki Sinclaire

As the political assistant/advisor to Mike Nattrass MEP I was present in the European Parliament this week.

Yesterday I was assaulted by the EU Security guards while peaceably making my views known about the proposed European Constitution. I along with colleagues from several other countries held banners espousing 'NO' in various languages. It should be noted that I was located on the 4th floor and not in the thoroughfare of MEP's leaving the chamber. We were previously informed by the security that we were not permitted to display the banners over the balconies. I decided not to antagonise the guards and display the banner vertically in front of my 6 foot seven frame. The guards unhappy that an alternative opinion was being espoused decided to forcibly retrieve the banner. I was punched in the breast, pushed to the ground and kicked before being dragged more than twenty yards along the ground by five guards. Other female staff was also manhandled. No action was taken by persons displaying 'YES' banners'

I sustained several bruises and was visibly shaken. I needed medical attention and was prescribed medication. I was initially detained but released.

In all my years of political campaigning (21 years) I have never being treated in such a deplorable way. It was like being transported back in time to the days of Nazi Gestapo. It is indicative of the European Union and their lack of tolerance for any alternative view that does not adhere to their unrelenting, obsessive amalgamation of Europe against the will of the people.

UKIP MEP's including the Party Leader made points of order seeking clarification on who ordered such heavy handed treatment. No answer was given.

I will be making a formal complaint and considering the legal position.

Bluemerle · 14-01-2005, 10:59 AM

http://bonde.com/?aid=18123&rk=1

Jens-Peter Bonde's Newsletter 12.01.05

12-01-2005, 03:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	Again what this incident shows loud and clear, is the press are totally in the pocket of the political elite. Not a whimper out of any of the main news sources. If it had all gone off smoothly though, we would have seen loads of glorious images, with rousing euro-anthems blazing out. We are being led like sheep INTO phpbb_a nanny state, time to stop taking orders and push back! __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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12-01-2005, 03:10 PM	#3 (permalink)
jp Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 999	The voting was: 500 in favour 137 against 40 abstained. When you think of the nature of the "european parliament", with all the gravy - train riders, hardly a ringing endorsement!

12-01-2005, 03:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
Grim Reaper Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 13	Some in the press have tried to do some stories (The Times story about the waste of £262,000 for the Constitution party etc.), but on the whole they have been very quiet. Do not forget Peter "Goebels-like" Mandelson is now in the commission and has undoubtedly been involved in the "news management" of this event w.r.t. the British media. I agree, we should try to hijack every news event we can starting today. I also think we should put out another poster campaign attacking the big three for riding the gravy train, since it appears the pre-election band wagon has now started to roll. Well done to our MEP's who stood against it all.

13-01-2005, 09:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
Bluemerle Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorset. Posts: 3,248	The EP reported that the vote in favour of the above was "overwhelming" but this report indicates an underwhelming result for something of such huge significance. News reaches me from Sweden that their constitution requires there to be 2 referenda with a general election between them, if any change to their constitution is proposed - now that's how to protect one's constitution !! It will be interesting to see how the jobsworths get around that one. Many Czech, Polish and UK MEPs vote against Constitution 13.01.2005 - 09:45 CET \| By Lucia Kubosova EUOBSERVER / BRUSSELS – As a new member state, Poland had the highest percentage of MEPs not supporting the European Constitution during a vote on Wednesday (12 January). Out of a total of 54 Polish MEPs, 38 either voted against (35.8%) or abstained (35.8%) from voting on a report endorsing the new Constitution. The Czech Republic had the highest percentage actually voting against (68.2%) with no abstentions. Most of them came from the Civic Democrats party (ODS). This main opposition party in the Czech Republic, which was founded by well known Eurosceptic and current President Vaclav Klaus. The third country with such high votes against was the UK with 58.9% against and 1.4% absentions. If citizens were to follow the pattern of these votes during a national referendum on the Constitution, it would cause a political crisis in the EU. While the UK and Poland are set to hold a referendum, it is still not certain whether the Czech Republic will. The opposition ODS is trying to push forward a bill to allow a referendum. However, during the vote yesterday MEPs from some countries, such as Slovenia and Lativa, voted entirely in favour. Similarly, most Spanish MEPs, whose country is to be the first to have a referendum on the Constitution on 20 February, voted in favour. Just three voted against.

14-01-2005, 10:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
Bluemerle Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorset. Posts: 3,248	http://bonde.com/?aid=18123&rk=1 Jens-Peter Bonde's Newsletter 12.01.05