Martin Cole Loses The Plot Completely

Ampers · 16-01-2005, 12:26 PM

I have always found the majority of Martin Coles blogs honest and also that he withdrwas completely anything that proves incorrect.

Our leadership wants only to shore up the Conservative Party - this is according to Laurie Boxall.

Martin will stop telling the truth as it is when we clean up our act.

Incidently I have clicked on the link to terminate myself from this forum as I find the majority of people who post here are either liars who are trying to deceive the gullible, or the gullible who have been totally deceived by the liars.

Mods: please REMOVE me as soon as you can or be prepared for many home truths about NF - interesting initials those - I mean Nigel Farange of course, and Roger Knackersman.

Andrew Taylor.

johnwest · 16-01-2005, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ampers

I have always found the majority of Martin Coles blogs honest and also that he withdrwas completely anything that proves incorrect.

Our leadership wants only to shore up the Conservative Party - this is according to Laurie Boxall.

Martin will stop telling the truth as it is when we clean up our act.

Incidently I have clicked on the link to terminate myself from this forum as I find the majority of people who post here are either liars who are trying to deceive the gullible, or the gullible who have been totally deceived by the liars.

Mods: please REMOVE me as soon as you can or be prepared for many home truths about NF - interesting initials those - I mean Nigel Farange of course, and Roger Knackersman.

Andrew Taylor.

Good. Depart. We don't need you. UKIP puts country before personal ambition. Join RKS in the desert.

cynic · 16-01-2005, 01:33 PM

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Our leadership wants only to shore up the Conservative Party

Err yes..I suppose the way to do this is to Field as many UKIP Candidates across the country to support the Conservatives. God, these guys are Master Planners at pulling the wool over our eyes. I don't know how we could all be so blind. People this cunningly clever will rule the world with their dastardly evil scheming!
:shock:

johnwest · 16-01-2005, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cynic

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Our leadership wants only to shore up the Conservative Party

Err yes..I suppose the way to do this is to Field as many UKIP Candidates across the country to support the Conservatives. God, these guys are Master Planners at pulling the wool over our eyes. I don't know how we could all be so blind. People this cunningly clever will rule the world with their dastardly evil scheming!
:shock:

Spot on again! How they can claim Roger wishes to support the Tories is beyond me.

Bluemerle · 16-01-2005, 01:38 PM

It is people like Martin Cole, Damian Hockney et al who are derailing the UKIP. They have pushed Kilroy INTO phpbb_believing he could lead the party, and now they are betwixt and between not knowing whether to stick with UKP or follow Kilroy INTO phpbb_the unknown!!!

johnwest · 16-01-2005, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluemerle

It is people like Martin Cole, Damian Hockney et al who are derailing the UKIP. They have pushed Kilroy INTO phpbb_believing he could lead the party, and now they are betwixt and between not knowing whether to stick with UKP or follow Kilroy INTO phpbb_the unknown!!!

Excellent point 'Blumerle'. It is a pleasure to see new members with the courage and sense to put the country before the vain ambitions of RKS.

Lawrie Boxall · 16-01-2005, 02:27 PM

The point I have been making is that our leaders have indeed been very clever how they have used the power of UKIP as leverage to make the Tory party adopt our agenda. That strategy (may be misguided) but of course allows for legions of UKIP candidates working their butts off standing in no-hope parliamentary elections. Campaigning in the UK is stilted and no real attempt is or ever has been made to campaign on live UK political issues because this would reduce the role and relevance of the Tories even more. Nigel is on record as are many of his associates as believing that only the Tory Party can get Britain out of the EU. That is the only explanation I have for the way UKIP has been run. That is the end you are working for. I hope you realise that. I want to make sure that as many members as possible also understand it.

C_steam · 16-01-2005, 02:51 PM

John W. This is a discussion forum.

Please discuss - this means accepting people who have differing views to you and listening to their arguments.

You cannot deny there are pople here close to the party core who have seen things and made conclusions - rightly or wrongly - from them. Have the wit and intelligence to accept that and then put forward your own reasoned points from your experience please.

I don't count "Good. Depart. We don't need you" as a reasoned argument by the way.

B.A.Ware · 16-01-2005, 04:09 PM

johnwest Says

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Good. Depart. We don't need you. UKIP puts country before personal ambition. Join RKS in the desert

Are there certain subjects that are taboo, this sounds like political correctness to me. What ever happened to freedom of speech?
Remember JW if you don’t agree with them insult them what a sophisticated policy

16-01-2005, 12:26 PM	#31 (permalink)
Ampers Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: London Posts: 17	Martin Cole I have always found the majority of Martin Coles blogs honest and also that he withdrwas completely anything that proves incorrect. Our leadership wants only to shore up the Conservative Party - this is according to Laurie Boxall. Martin will stop telling the truth as it is when we clean up our act. Incidently I have clicked on the link to terminate myself from this forum as I find the majority of people who post here are either liars who are trying to deceive the gullible, or the gullible who have been totally deceived by the liars. Mods: please REMOVE me as soon as you can or be prepared for many home truths about NF - interesting initials those - I mean Nigel Farange of course, and Roger Knackersman. Andrew Taylor.

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16-01-2005, 01:38 PM	#35 (permalink)
Bluemerle Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Dorset. Posts: 3,252	It is people like Martin Cole, Damian Hockney et al who are derailing the UKIP. They have pushed Kilroy INTO phpbb_believing he could lead the party, and now they are betwixt and between not knowing whether to stick with UKP or follow Kilroy INTO phpbb_the unknown!!!

16-01-2005, 02:27 PM	#37 (permalink)
Lawrie Boxall Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Sandhurst Posts: 1,015	The point I have been making is that our leaders have indeed been very clever how they have used the power of UKIP as leverage to make the Tory party adopt our agenda. That strategy (may be misguided) but of course allows for legions of UKIP candidates working their butts off standing in no-hope parliamentary elections. Campaigning in the UK is stilted and no real attempt is or ever has been made to campaign on live UK political issues because this would reduce the role and relevance of the Tories even more. Nigel is on record as are many of his associates as believing that only the Tory Party can get Britain out of the EU. That is the only explanation I have for the way UKIP has been run. That is the end you are working for. I hope you realise that. I want to make sure that as many members as possible also understand it.

16-01-2005, 02:51 PM	#38 (permalink)
C_steam Super Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Paddling up 5hit creek..... Posts: 7,502	John W. This is a discussion forum. Please discuss - this means accepting people who have differing views to you and listening to their arguments. You cannot deny there are pople here close to the party core who have seen things and made conclusions - rightly or wrongly - from them. Have the wit and intelligence to accept that and then put forward your own reasoned points from your experience please. I don't count "Good. Depart. We don't need you" as a reasoned argument by the way.