UKIP The way ahead?

DAtkins · 03-01-2005, 05:12 PM

I joined UKIP about a month ago and think it is the most exciting thing to hit British Politics for over 50 years. It owes no allegiances to Big Corporations or Unions. It’s basic premise to keep Britain’s Political and Economic Independence and fiscal control in the hands of the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Bank of England are entirely laudable. Many will see the Europe Community as a gigantic job creation scheme for the Political Elite of each individual country. Its habit of sucking in huge volumes of tax to fund a self-accountable bureaucracy producing only mountains of unwanted and unwarranted legislation is seen as an affront to the UK taxpayers.

This has served us well. But we now need move on and broaden our political ideological base, taking over the political and moral high ground vacated by the three historical parties. We need a democratically elected leader who can inspire the electorate be it Mr Knapman or Mr Kilroy-Silk. All parties have self-interested cliques but they should be prepared to suspend hostilities till after the General Elections. The party has a chance to prepare a manifesto based on good sense that will appeal to the current electorate.

A suggestion for Social Care.

[b]. There is no such thing as Social Care. Just Care. You should not lose your home for one collection of ailments and not for another. Care should be free at the point of delivery. Conversely no one should profit from being in Care be it Residential, Nursing and Hospital by paying a charge to cover basic living expenses. Public Sector Care is a jewel and should be protected as such from privatisation.

I am sure Members can come up with some others and improve on mine.

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Biscuitman · 04-01-2005, 11:54 PM

God idea D.

Hope you've sent it to the manifesto committee

irvine list · 05-01-2005, 11:15 PM

nice ideal ,care should be free. Try costing this as if you were chancellor, bearing in mind we are all living longer,and rhe population is ageing as a whole as we are breeding below population replacement level of 2.1.

Carl Faulkner · 05-01-2005, 11:26 PM

Cost?

Start with prioritising...out with nose jobs, varicose viens, sex changes etc etc etc.

Start with life threatening illnesses - children first and pay for what is the best available at the time. Any money left goes on the next priorities and so on. There may be money left for sex changes if it is not too far down the list.

Why does the money never run out for asylum seekers?

irvine list · 05-01-2005, 11:54 PM

excellent idea.I understand it was called the National Health Service, and was to cure our illnesses,many of which were life-threatening in 1946.
In Canada possibly, certainly in certain U.S.A States, they are bringing in a points system.If you are 96, medicare will not pay for a hip replcement. etc.
After all ,there has always been in force a system which spreads a limited health service budget over an unlimited demand-its called- waiting lists!

mkpdavies · 06-01-2005, 07:43 AM

I agree 100% with the prioritising case. I know someone who had a boob enlargment on the NHS. She went INTO phpbb_the doctors saying it depressed her and she got put on the waiting list. A few years later, waiting lists became a priority and because she was making the stats look bad, she got her op.

Sorry but this is not what I pay INTO phpbb_the system for.

neville · 06-01-2005, 02:42 PM

Our right to buy vitamins and nutrients is to be outlawed under new EU laws.
Even information about vitamin C will be restricted!
These laws have no scientific basis, in fact the opposite is the case.
This ban has the backing of certain vested interests and should be rolled back before it is too late.

DAtkins · 10-01-2005, 12:54 AM

No Blame insurance.

In the UK when seeking compensation for injury it is essential to prove fault. If you are unable to do so then you get nothing. This applies to Medical, Car and Workplace accidents. It stops the need to get a fellow professional to testify against another to obtain a settlement. It stops the legal profession profiting and taking money from claimants.

In Australia, I believe that insurers contribute to a common pool and a tribunal decides on the claim on the basis of need rather than fault. There is a right of appeal should a claimant not accept the decision. I believe this would be right for the UK.

Biscuitman · 10-01-2005, 11:07 PM

I'll go with that 'D'.

Anything that stops Queen cherie and her ilk earning a crust

UKIP MAN · 09-02-2005, 07:31 AM

After our meeting last night and putting a face to a name I would like to say David welcome to UKIP and this is a very important subject and I would like to congratulate you on your speech and your selection you seem to be a very good weapon in our armoury. I didnt catch the websites that you spoke of so if you would like to put them here or PM them to me Im sure they will make very good reading.

and dont forget the next round is yours! :wink:

03-01-2005, 05:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
DAtkins Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 34	UKIP The way ahead? I joined UKIP about a month ago and think it is the most exciting thing to hit British Politics for over 50 years. It owes no allegiances to Big Corporations or Unions. It’s basic premise to keep Britain’s Political and Economic Independence and fiscal control in the hands of the Chancellor of the Exchequer and the Bank of England are entirely laudable. Many will see the Europe Community as a gigantic job creation scheme for the Political Elite of each individual country. Its habit of sucking in huge volumes of tax to fund a self-accountable bureaucracy producing only mountains of unwanted and unwarranted legislation is seen as an affront to the UK taxpayers. This has served us well. But we now need move on and broaden our political ideological base, taking over the political and moral high ground vacated by the three historical parties. We need a democratically elected leader who can inspire the electorate be it Mr Knapman or Mr Kilroy-Silk. All parties have self-interested cliques but they should be prepared to suspend hostilities till after the General Elections. The party has a chance to prepare a manifesto based on good sense that will appeal to the current electorate. A suggestion for Social Care. [b]. There is no such thing as Social Care. Just Care. You should not lose your home for one collection of ailments and not for another. Care should be free at the point of delivery. Conversely no one should profit from being in Care be it Residential, Nursing and Hospital by paying a charge to cover basic living expenses. Public Sector Care is a jewel and should be protected as such from privatisation. I am sure Members can come up with some others and improve on mine. . [/b]

04-01-2005, 11:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Biscuitman Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 3,486	God idea D. Hope you've sent it to the manifesto committee __________________ IF THE EU WAS THE ANSWER, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A STUPID QUESTION!

05-01-2005, 11:15 PM	#3 (permalink)
irvine list Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: shropshire Posts: 4	care nice ideal ,care should be free. Try costing this as if you were chancellor, bearing in mind we are all living longer,and rhe population is ageing as a whole as we are breeding below population replacement level of 2.1.

05-01-2005, 11:54 PM	#5 (permalink)
irvine list Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: shropshire Posts: 4	care. excellent idea.I understand it was called the National Health Service, and was to cure our illnesses,many of which were life-threatening in 1946. In Canada possibly, certainly in certain U.S.A States, they are bringing in a points system.If you are 96, medicare will not pay for a hip replcement. etc. After all ,there has always been in force a system which spreads a limited health service budget over an unlimited demand-its called- waiting lists!

06-01-2005, 07:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,842 Party: Libertarian Party	I agree 100% with the prioritising case. I know someone who had a boob enlargment on the NHS. She went INTO phpbb_the doctors saying it depressed her and she got put on the waiting list. A few years later, waiting lists became a priority and because she was making the stats look bad, she got her op. Sorry but this is not what I pay INTO phpbb_the system for. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

05-01-2005, 11:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Carl Faulkner Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 352	Cost? Start with prioritising...out with nose jobs, varicose viens, sex changes etc etc etc. Start with life threatening illnesses - children first and pay for what is the best available at the time. Any money left goes on the next priorities and so on. There may be money left for sex changes if it is not too far down the list. Why does the money never run out for asylum seekers?

06-01-2005, 02:42 PM	#7 (permalink)
neville Newbie Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Brighton Posts: 2	Time to wake up! Our right to buy vitamins and nutrients is to be outlawed under new EU laws. Even information about vitamin C will be restricted! These laws have no scientific basis, in fact the opposite is the case. This ban has the backing of certain vested interests and should be rolled back before it is too late.

10-01-2005, 12:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
DAtkins Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Essex Posts: 34	No Blame insurance No Blame insurance. In the UK when seeking compensation for injury it is essential to prove fault. If you are unable to do so then you get nothing. This applies to Medical, Car and Workplace accidents. It stops the need to get a fellow professional to testify against another to obtain a settlement. It stops the legal profession profiting and taking money from claimants. In Australia, I believe that insurers contribute to a common pool and a tribunal decides on the claim on the basis of need rather than fault. There is a right of appeal should a claimant not accept the decision. I believe this would be right for the UK.

10-01-2005, 11:07 PM	#9 (permalink)
Biscuitman Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Reading Posts: 3,486	I'll go with that 'D'. Anything that stops Queen cherie and her ilk earning a crust __________________ IF THE EU WAS THE ANSWER, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A STUPID QUESTION!

09-02-2005, 07:31 AM	#10 (permalink)
UKIP MAN Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,898	After our meeting last night and putting a face to a name I would like to say David welcome to UKIP and this is a very important subject and I would like to congratulate you on your speech and your selection you seem to be a very good weapon in our armoury. I didnt catch the websites that you spoke of so if you would like to put them here or PM them to me Im sure they will make very good reading. and dont forget the next round is yours! :wink:

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