Just suppose

MrMoor · 29-12-2004, 10:07 PM

Let's face it, we are drifting toward nothing more than occupation. There will be no Operation Sealion it will be a bloodless occupation, but still we will lose our sovereignty.

How long before the United Kingdom is renamed something like "Oceania" or something else which doe snot have historical baggage regarding empire, monarchy, or Christianity.

Who can say that we have a government at all, unless you are one of those weird New Labour party faithful then this government is not for you, unless you are new here, have the alternative "lifestyle" then this government is not your government.

To put it bluntly we have no government, we have a caretaker regime ready for the handover to Brussels. A PM who is ready to do the bidding for Bush and Brussels but is away enjoying the sun when British people and many thousands of other poor souls are being swept to their deaths. In tat capacity I would regard Blair as being the incarnation of evil.

We need to regain the capacity for self rule, we have a puppet government, a parasite eating the soul out of the heart of the country. It must be stopped.

If the UKIP is for anything it is not for presiding over the death of the UK, standing complaining from the sidelines while our country dies.

We have laws, but they are for legitimate governments, this government breaks it's own laws as fast as they are drafted. How can they have any moral high ground when they choose not to even follow their own rules?

Bobby-Veritas's Boy · 30-12-2004, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMoor

Let's face it, we are drifting toward nothing more than occupation. There will be no Operation Sealion it will be a bloodless occupation, but still we will lose our sovereignty.

How long before the United Kingdom is renamed something like "Oceania" or something else which doe snot have historical baggage regarding empire, monarchy, or Christianity.

Who can say that we have a government at all, unless you are one of those weird New Labour party faithful then this government is not for you, unless you are new here, have the alternative "lifestyle" then this government is not your government.

To put it bluntly we have no government, we have a caretaker regime ready for the handover to Brussels. A PM who is ready to do the bidding for Bush and Brussels but is away enjoying the sun when British people and many thousands of other poor souls are being swept to their deaths. In tat capacity I would regard Blair as being the incarnation of evil.

We need to regain the capacity for self rule, we have a puppet government, a parasite eating the soul out of the heart of the country. It must be stopped.

If the UKIP is for anything it is not for presiding over the death of the UK, standing complaining from the sidelines while our country dies.

We have laws, but they are for legitimate governments, this government breaks it's own laws as fast as they are drafted. How can they have any moral high ground when they choose not to even follow their own rules?

You would never had thought it was Christmas with all this doom and gloom, I think there's a government, there must be otherwise who could we blame!! In a few days time It'll be a New Year, new elections, new promises, budgets before and after election. You see no need to depressed we have a lot to look forward too and to complain about. What I'm looking forward to is the debate in June about who is going to replace failed Tory leader Michael "oh I do love myself" Howard. IF I can be first with this, did you know, at the time of Major's removal, many of us then Labour people were worried sick that the Tories would be sensible and elect the only man who could have possed a threat to Labour, we couldn't believe our luck when they failed to. Not once, but three times. It was a fact then as much as it is now, to be elected a party needs the support of the so called middle England, regardless of his politices and beliefs the only man who could have been a threat was Ken Baker, pro european, certainly, but the only option if they wish to gain support of middle England, now there's something to have a go at me about, Happy New Year.

felneymike · 30-12-2004, 06:50 PM

I wanted to do this with all the gay and bi people in the world once, it would be called Homonia, and we would snatch a big tract of land in Siberia where no ****** lives and set up a homeland for gay people. First rule: Traction control is to be banned!

..Then some australian businessman commandeered a 3-mile square rock (yeah, we'll all fit on that!) in the middle of nowhere and set up a half-jokey "gay kingdom" with laws like "all lesbians shall do national service", also its flag was pink and its national anthem was "Its raining men".. plus there are no roads there and the classic car scene is frankly laughable

Biscuitman · 30-12-2004, 06:58 PM

"where no ****** lives "

Intended pun?

felneymike · 30-12-2004, 07:17 PM

Not for long! XD

Building it in Siberia might have a bad side-effect though-LADA's!, oh well, i suppose they are better than Toyota Yaris's's's's and New Minis

MrMoor · 30-12-2004, 10:10 PM

I still think that it may be something which would send shock-waves if as many people as possible agreed that the present government was not legitimate enough to claim a mandate and a declaration of government was made.

No one expects to suddenly become a government and Blair to resign.

It would on the other hand send a message that the government and their supporters should watch their backs, get them on the defensive and paranoid enough to withdraw even more and thus become that much more unelectable.

Sarumano · 03-01-2005, 12:50 AM

You realise you're talking Revolution here?
Are you prepared to push for Civil War to get us out of the EU? :shock:

mkpdavies · 03-01-2005, 01:05 AM

I see this as one the of big reasons for supporting UKIP now. To prevent a future civil war that always happens when big blocks swallow up sovereign nations!

Intbel · 03-01-2005, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sarumano

You realise you're talking Revolution here?
Are you prepared to push for Civil War to get us out of the EU? :shock:

Civil disobedience is a real possibility if Blair has another term in office and continues as he has been.

Certainly it is something in which I am prepared to engage if necessary.

It may not be necessary - let's get the election result first.

mkpdavies · 03-01-2005, 01:15 AM

I won't be accepting an ID card for starters. If that means putting someone in prison, who has never commited a crime, and has paid in a very decent amount of cash INTO phpbb_the tax system, then Britain should be concerned.

I don't think I will be alone!

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29-12-2004, 10:07 PM	#11 (permalink)
MrMoor Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 259	Let's face it, we are drifting toward nothing more than occupation. There will be no Operation Sealion it will be a bloodless occupation, but still we will lose our sovereignty. How long before the United Kingdom is renamed something like "Oceania" or something else which doe snot have historical baggage regarding empire, monarchy, or Christianity. Who can say that we have a government at all, unless you are one of those weird New Labour party faithful then this government is not for you, unless you are new here, have the alternative "lifestyle" then this government is not your government. To put it bluntly we have no government, we have a caretaker regime ready for the handover to Brussels. A PM who is ready to do the bidding for Bush and Brussels but is away enjoying the sun when British people and many thousands of other poor souls are being swept to their deaths. In tat capacity I would regard Blair as being the incarnation of evil. We need to regain the capacity for self rule, we have a puppet government, a parasite eating the soul out of the heart of the country. It must be stopped. If the UKIP is for anything it is not for presiding over the death of the UK, standing complaining from the sidelines while our country dies. We have laws, but they are for legitimate governments, this government breaks it's own laws as fast as they are drafted. How can they have any moral high ground when they choose not to even follow their own rules?

30-12-2004, 06:50 PM	#13 (permalink)
felneymike Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 78	I wanted to do this with all the gay and bi people in the world once, it would be called Homonia, and we would snatch a big tract of land in Siberia where no ****** lives and set up a homeland for gay people. First rule: Traction control is to be banned! ..Then some australian businessman commandeered a 3-mile square rock (yeah, we'll all fit on that!) in the middle of nowhere and set up a half-jokey "gay kingdom" with laws like "all lesbians shall do national service", also its flag was pink and its national anthem was "Its raining men".. plus there are no roads there and the classic car scene is frankly laughable

30-12-2004, 07:17 PM	#15 (permalink)
felneymike Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cambridgeshire Posts: 78	Not for long! XD Building it in Siberia might have a bad side-effect though-LADA's!, oh well, i suppose they are better than Toyota Yaris's's's's and New Minis

30-12-2004, 10:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
MrMoor Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 259	I still think that it may be something which would send shock-waves if as many people as possible agreed that the present government was not legitimate enough to claim a mandate and a declaration of government was made. No one expects to suddenly become a government and Blair to resign. It would on the other hand send a message that the government and their supporters should watch their backs, get them on the defensive and paranoid enough to withdraw even more and thus become that much more unelectable.

03-01-2005, 12:50 AM	#17 (permalink)
Sarumano Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Salisbury Posts: 309	You realise you're talking Revolution here? Are you prepared to push for Civil War to get us out of the EU? :shock: