Never mind the manifesto, buy a dressing gown!

Nigel Garage · 21-01-2005, 02:09 PM

No Anthony, he made it clear that he agrees with everything the party stands for. He has the utmost admiration for the ordinary party workers, whom he referred to as the 'backbone' of the party.

He was talking about the party as it has become under the current leadership, and unfortunately he was absolutely right in what he said. UKIP has indeed become a charade, an empty vessel. It is not the party I joined.

I do agree he should have made this clearer though.

Anthony Butcher · 21-01-2005, 02:15 PM

Quote:

I do agree he should have made this clearer though.

Remember why he got sacked from the BBC in the first place? For criticising all Arabs instead of Arab states. You better get used to this kind of thing!

And I stand by the fact that he was criticising the whole party, not just the leadership. I understand that this is not what you want him to have said, but this is the way it will be interpreted. "it is a charade, an empty vessel" is perhaps the most dismissive thing that he could have said. UKIP is the only major party with a real sense of purpose. It is the thing that differentiates us from the rest, and he just took that from us.

Nigel Garage · 21-01-2005, 02:27 PM

Code:

Remember why he got sacked from the BBC in the first place? For criticising all Arabs instead of Arab states. You better get used to this kind of thing!

Believe me, I know!

Quote:

And I stand by the fact that he was criticising the whole party, not just the leadership.

You may stand by it, but it's not a fact.

Quote:

UKIP is the only major party with a real sense of purpose.

Used to be Anthony, used to be.

johnwest · 21-01-2005, 02:34 PM

Garage, why are so bothered about UKIP? You have joined RKS on the road to nowhere. You have nothing positive to say about us so why don't you quit this forum?

Nigel Garage · 21-01-2005, 02:38 PM

I will do soon John, but I know you appreciate my attempts to hold the party's leadership to account so I'm hanging around for your sake.

johnwest · 21-01-2005, 02:44 PM

Pathetic, really pathetic.

mkpdavies · 21-01-2005, 03:39 PM

Sorry Nigel, but your credability is shot to pieces with me now. If you are still thinking of going with RKS and trying to defend his attacks on UKIP, then you can be considered no better than him in my book. I can no longer take anything you say about UKIP seriously, as RKS has made it quite clear that you are the enemy.

You say you are in limbo and that is true. You have to decide whether you are going to join a unhinged loose cannon INTO phpbb_oblivion, or stick it out at the only game in town and look to reform it after the election.

Your choice.

Nigel Garage · 21-01-2005, 03:41 PM

Good to see you fulfilling your duties as an impartial moderator, Matt!

Now, can anyone tell me any news about DressingGowns R Us?

Dave · 21-01-2005, 03:48 PM

Surely Matt, these vitriolic attacks should be in the War Zone, don't make me censor you, I mean if I said that RK was still a useless TIT, is isn't fit to lick my boots, you would snip away and tell me to go to the War Zone.

Come on play fair.

Dave

mkpdavies · 21-01-2005, 03:51 PM

I'm not impartial at all. I support UKIP 100% and if there is an enemy of UKIP trying to stir up trouble I will call it. We get a lot of other party members come here and have reasonable debate. You on the other hand, have supposedly nailed your colours to the mast of an enemy ship. You still support RKS after his attacks, so I don't care about your opinions on the leadership, internal issues or anything else.

You are worse than a Tory, as at least they have their guns pointed mainly at Labour. You have UKIP as your sole target, just like your pretend leader RKS.

I put it on record here that I have no time for you anymore. So no I am not impartial in your respect.

21-01-2005, 03:39 PM	#27 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,849 Party: Libertarian Party	Sorry Nigel, but your credability is shot to pieces with me now. If you are still thinking of going with RKS and trying to defend his attacks on UKIP, then you can be considered no better than him in my book. I can no longer take anything you say about UKIP seriously, as RKS has made it quite clear that you are the enemy. You say you are in limbo and that is true. You have to decide whether you are going to join a unhinged loose cannon INTO phpbb_oblivion, or stick it out at the only game in town and look to reform it after the election. Your choice. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

21-01-2005, 03:51 PM	#30 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,849 Party: Libertarian Party	I'm not impartial at all. I support UKIP 100% and if there is an enemy of UKIP trying to stir up trouble I will call it. We get a lot of other party members come here and have reasonable debate. You on the other hand, have supposedly nailed your colours to the mast of an enemy ship. You still support RKS after his attacks, so I don't care about your opinions on the leadership, internal issues or anything else. You are worse than a Tory, as at least they have their guns pointed mainly at Labour. You have UKIP as your sole target, just like your pretend leader RKS. I put it on record here that I have no time for you anymore. So no I am not impartial in your respect. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

21-01-2005, 02:09 PM	#21 (permalink)
Nigel Garage Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ashford Posts: 557	No Anthony, he made it clear that he agrees with everything the party stands for. He has the utmost admiration for the ordinary party workers, whom he referred to as the 'backbone' of the party. He was talking about the party as it has become under the current leadership, and unfortunately he was absolutely right in what he said. UKIP has indeed become a charade, an empty vessel. It is not the party I joined. I do agree he should have made this clearer though.

21-01-2005, 02:34 PM	#24 (permalink)
johnwest Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Suffolk Posts: 827 Party: UKIP	Garage, why are so bothered about UKIP? You have joined RKS on the road to nowhere. You have nothing positive to say about us so why don't you quit this forum?

21-01-2005, 02:38 PM	#25 (permalink)
Nigel Garage Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ashford Posts: 557	I will do soon John, but I know you appreciate my attempts to hold the party's leadership to account so I'm hanging around for your sake.

21-01-2005, 02:44 PM	#26 (permalink)
johnwest Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Suffolk Posts: 827 Party: UKIP	Pathetic, really pathetic.

21-01-2005, 03:41 PM	#28 (permalink)
Nigel Garage Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Ashford Posts: 557	Good to see you fulfilling your duties as an impartial moderator, Matt! Now, can anyone tell me any news about DressingGowns R Us?

21-01-2005, 03:48 PM	#29 (permalink)
Dave Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 229	Surely Matt, these vitriolic attacks should be in the War Zone, don't make me censor you, I mean if I said that RK was still a useless TIT, is isn't fit to lick my boots, you would snip away and tell me to go to the War Zone. Come on play fair. Dave