Nigel Farage to stand in Thanet South

m taylor · 10-12-2004, 02:46 PM

1 or 2 British MP's will announce our arrival on the political scene and give the millions of people who wish to leave Europe representation at Westminster which they do not have now and it will create greater media coverage and public awareness then ever before. It will give us the platform we have always sought. A vote of 20% everywhere and NO MP's will leave us in the political dark ages!!!!!!

EP Employee · 10-12-2004, 03:01 PM

Ooh, McGregor is a slimey, nasty little f******. I actually hope Farage keeps him out... I think the latter is the best thing UKIP have got to offer, PLUS he always says hello to me, which is nice.

mkpdavies · 10-12-2004, 03:04 PM

Splendid descripton of McGregor, I whole heartedly concur!

EP Employee · 10-12-2004, 03:15 PM

Sometimes, only a profanity will do.

thanet man · 15-12-2004, 11:30 PM

I dont think M Taylor knows what he talking about, in fact i`m certain of it !

Anthony Butcher · 15-12-2004, 11:43 PM

Care to elaborate?

Welcome to the forum

doc_cruel · 16-12-2004, 01:05 AM

too right my Island friend! (well... not that Thanet's an island any more but you know what I mean).

1 or 2 MPs and a lot of lost deposits = no real power; I keep getting told the message is more important than the party and a 20% polling in the election will force the issue more than 1 sitting MP.

johnwest · 17-12-2004, 02:12 PM

Nigel Farage is an excellent speaker and a great campaigner! He has a great chance to win the seat. Good luck.

ukip kipper · 20-12-2004, 01:48 AM

Thanet South is currently a Labour-held marginal, requiring about a 2.3% swing to the Conservatives for the Conservatives to take the seat. As such, without UKIP involvement it would probably remain marginal next time. Therefore both Labour and the Conservatives will campaign energetically for it.

In the 2001 general election, UKIP took just 1.3% of the vote in Thanet South. Persuading voters to vote UKIP is relatively easy. Persuading voters in a marginal to vote UKIP is another matter entirely.

UKIP may have done well there in the European elections, but it might make more sense to target those constituencies where UKIP also has a track record of doing well in general elections (including perhaps the 6 seats where UKIP saved the deposit despite little, if any, publicity in 2001).

However, Nigel Farage certainly knows his politics. If he wants to stand there, he must have a pretty good reason. So what is it?

Aitken's old seat...that might just help with a few votes - but Aitken himself lost the seat in 1997 as a Conservative candidate.

Perhaps the demographics of the seat are right? The media spin that UKIP take Tory votes is simply untrue. I tend to take LibDem votes when I stand in my local area.

Maybe the argument is that if both Labour and the Conservatives are strong, fewer actual votes will be needed to take the seat. That doesn't seem to be a convincing reason, because you guarantee fighting two well-funded, well-organised major parties. We can't usually match them for activists.

What does Nigel Farage know that we don't? I look forward to seeing him elected on polling day, but I can't help wondering what ace he's got up his sleeve.

Anthony Butcher · 20-12-2004, 01:59 AM

I think that we are way beyond looking at the last general election results. This is virgin territory for the party, and we have nothing to base our calculations on.

10-12-2004, 03:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 30,604	Splendid descripton of McGregor, I whole heartedly concur! __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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10-12-2004, 02:46 PM	#11 (permalink)
m taylor Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 46	1 or 2 British MP's will announce our arrival on the political scene and give the millions of people who wish to leave Europe representation at Westminster which they do not have now and it will create greater media coverage and public awareness then ever before. It will give us the platform we have always sought. A vote of 20% everywhere and NO MP's will leave us in the political dark ages!!!!!!

10-12-2004, 03:01 PM	#12 (permalink)
EP Employee Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 55	Ooh, McGregor is a slimey, nasty little f******. I actually hope Farage keeps him out... I think the latter is the best thing UKIP have got to offer, PLUS he always says hello to me, which is nice.

10-12-2004, 03:15 PM	#14 (permalink)
EP Employee Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 55	Sometimes, only a profanity will do.

15-12-2004, 11:30 PM	#15 (permalink)
thanet man Newbie Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4	I dont think M Taylor knows what he talking about, in fact i`m certain of it !

15-12-2004, 11:43 PM	#16 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 9,823 Party: None	Care to elaborate? Welcome to the forum

16-12-2004, 01:05 AM	#17 (permalink)
doc_cruel Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 213	too right my Island friend! (well... not that Thanet's an island any more but you know what I mean). 1 or 2 MPs and a lot of lost deposits = no real power; I keep getting told the message is more important than the party and a 20% polling in the election will force the issue more than 1 sitting MP.

17-12-2004, 02:12 PM	#18 (permalink)
johnwest Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Suffolk Posts: 827 Party: UKIP	Nigel Farage is an excellent speaker and a great campaigner! He has a great chance to win the seat. Good luck.

20-12-2004, 01:48 AM	#19 (permalink)
ukip kipper Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 303	Thanet South is currently a Labour-held marginal, requiring about a 2.3% swing to the Conservatives for the Conservatives to take the seat. As such, without UKIP involvement it would probably remain marginal next time. Therefore both Labour and the Conservatives will campaign energetically for it. In the 2001 general election, UKIP took just 1.3% of the vote in Thanet South. Persuading voters to vote UKIP is relatively easy. Persuading voters in a marginal to vote UKIP is another matter entirely. UKIP may have done well there in the European elections, but it might make more sense to target those constituencies where UKIP also has a track record of doing well in general elections (including perhaps the 6 seats where UKIP saved the deposit despite little, if any, publicity in 2001). However, Nigel Farage certainly knows his politics. If he wants to stand there, he must have a pretty good reason. So what is it? Aitken's old seat...that might just help with a few votes - but Aitken himself lost the seat in 1997 as a Conservative candidate. Perhaps the demographics of the seat are right? The media spin that UKIP take Tory votes is simply untrue. I tend to take LibDem votes when I stand in my local area. Maybe the argument is that if both Labour and the Conservatives are strong, fewer actual votes will be needed to take the seat. That doesn't seem to be a convincing reason, because you guarantee fighting two well-funded, well-organised major parties. We can't usually match them for activists. What does Nigel Farage know that we don't? I look forward to seeing him elected on polling day, but I can't help wondering what ace he's got up his sleeve.

20-12-2004, 01:59 AM	#20 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 9,823 Party: None	I think that we are way beyond looking at the last general election results. This is virgin territory for the party, and we have nothing to base our calculations on.