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Old 04-10-2004, 04:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If the UK pulls out of iraq, says sorry for letting Tony get wrapped up with Bush, offers them a fair price for their oil and other exports, and agrees to help them build their land back up how they want it. They probably wouldn't bomb us in return. I think they may be playing a new card with the british hostage. I think they are sensing the same "enough's enough" feeling that the uk are.
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Old 04-10-2004, 07:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think that we should be careful about confusing the Iraqi government with the terrorists/insurgents and with the Iraqi people. They are all separate entities.

At this point, I think that we need to stick it out until the Iraqi government can maintain control.
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I am afraid we are in a no win situation now, and will be bogged down with this Blair created problem for years.

If we pull out now we will annoy the US, look like we failed in the eyes of the world and will leave behind a horrific mess.

If we stay we spend millions, lose lives and are forever a target for terrorists again.

I honestly have no idea what we should do now, other than get rid of the people that got us INTO phpbb_this mess as a start.
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Default assertive military actions

Sadly our military show little imagination or determination to move everything to closure, though maybe it is just their hands are bound by political creeps in London.

Take Falluja. On the big map of the city in the operations room mark it off in square miles (not kilometres). Prioritise them according to insurgent density. Leaflet all the residents in the square miles that they should evict the insurgents. At the next atrocity in a marked square you remind people they have 24hrs to get out. Then when the time is up, if the insurgents have not been handed over, you flatten the square, and ad infinitum until either the insurgents have moved on or the city stands no more. The Israelis bless them have built a wall to keep out terrorists. we should circle Falluja with just such a wall.

We should also tell insurgents that for every Brit they kidnap, we will send 10 new troopers to the region - they themselves will become the cause for extension of the troubles. Likewise we might reduce our troops on a sliding scale for permanent good behaviour.
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I did not support the war, the only time I have not supported military action but I do not think we can pull out now, we have a key role to play in rebuilding Iraq and establishing democracy there
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No! I think it`s gone too far now. We cannot pull out for the reasons mentioned-leaving the US in the s****t-face-saving-allowing killings ad lib etc.

In Malaya it took some 14 years to settle the CT problem and that was done initially through a good common-sense commander named Templar who started a `Hearts & Minds` campaign providing medical aid for villagers- protecting those villagers from plundering CT`s and for those villages who supported the CT`s he burned the village to the ground and re-settled the inhabitants miles away. It took a long time but it worked!!
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