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    Quote Originally Posted by British-Conservatism View Post
    Darwin never said the Jews were inferior. As for the Bible, it says "the people of Ham are cursed" (Black Africans).
    It says nothing of the sort. Where do you get that from? Can you quote a Bible verse or verses to support this claim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Bennett View Post
    For England, I think your post, which in essence I agree with, can best be summarised thus:

    "There is plenty of variety within the human race".

    or, if you prefer,

    "There is plenty of variety within the human species".

    Either is O.K.

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    Yep, agreed, I just think Ken Ham is being a bit pc when he says 'there's only one race', but in substance I agree with him that we are all from Adam etc etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Bennett View Post
    It says nothing of the sort. Where do you get that from? Can you quote a Bible verse or verses to support this claim?
    Maybe Genesis 9:20 to 9:27?
    Si hoc legere scis nimium eruditionis habes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Bennett View Post
    Here we have the results of the false theory of evolution and Darwin's naked racism exposed in one short paragraph.

    Darwin's insistence on the 'struggle for existence' led by traceable steps, via Spencer, to the Darwinian influence on the book 'My Struggle' - Hitler's 'Mein Kampf'.

    Darwin genuinely believed that certain 'races' were 'less evolved' than his own Caucasian 'race', and used direct and insolent language, calling them 'savages'. To Darwin, 'savages' like the Tierra del Fuegans were virtually subhuman; he even referred to the Irish as 'savage' and 'less advanced' than the English (his 'race').

    Against this, the Bible claims we are just one 'race' - the human race - with special, unique, non-animal qualities. Fallen, yes, but 'made in the image of God'.

    It was Darwin's appalling evolutionary theory that encouraged his beloved Caucasian 'superior race' to perpetrate the Holocaust and inflict eugenics on us - and gave encouragement to white supremacists the world over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taddy Porter View Post
    Liberals act and think in regard to man as if christianity is true and man has some absolute ontological and moral status.

    If Darwinism is true and the species are evolving then we should recognize and welcome that with eugenic policies.

    The fear of eugenics is practically the imposition of christian dogma in modern society and its opponents are virtual christians.

    The US and many countries in Europe had eugenic policies before WWII. We have reverted since then and have failed to assimilate Darwinism into the social sphere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smidgey View Post
    What is the case need not ought to be the case. Also, we can rebel against nature.
    Indeed we can and do.

    Arguably christianity, liberalism and all egalitarian systems are in rebellion against nature, which is why they are so harmful. Liberals like to pretend that what is 'nice' must be correct.

    The principle of nature is not equality but inequality. It advances through variation and selection and breeding should reflect the selective principle, otherwise downbreeding and ruin are the result.

    We will advance not by trying to contradict or ignore nature's laws but by observing them.

    And that is true humility and socially responsible behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taddy Porter View Post
    Arguably christianity, liberalism and all egalitarian systems are in rebellion against nature, which is why they are so harmful.
    The process of reinterpreting christianity to conform to the new cultural marxist paradigm is still continuing, despite massive efforts being given to it. Of course the Bible expects a certain egalitarianism within the church, but not to the extent the cultural marxists would like to believe - leadership is male, women are to have kids and raise them at home, and slavery, though not condoned, was accepted as part of life. Private property is affirmed, and the followers of Christ are told to 'honour the king'. Hardly a manual for social egalitarianism. Moreover the Bible affirms that the ethnic nations were each given their place of habitation from God, and adds that the saved will be classified by nation and tribe, which supports nationalism, not internationalism. The liberals like to take one verse out of context (there is neither slave nor free, Jew nor Gentile, male nor female etc) and emphasise it to the disregard of the rest. Moreover, the Bible affirms and teaches the authority of the state to exercise capital punishment (contrary to rjt who shows lack of integrity and hides behind cowardly words like 'God will judge me' when challenged on this). Perhaps it is for these reasons that the cultural marxists have sought to destroy Protestant, anglo-saxon nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ApGriffith View Post
    My characterisation of those who attempt to explain away this blatant discrepancy as "pathetic" was intended to include all those who do so, including the author of the above quotation. It is special pleading of the worst kind, and nothing can get around the embarrassing fact that the Bible contradicts itself.
    That is a ridiculous way of trying to explain that you have not given time and concentration in studying it,

    The billions who have and see the truth in the way it explains the events happening today will be seeing someone else as "pathetic".

    Read and study before making these dangerous comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by British-Conservatism View Post
    Darwin never said the Jews where inferior.
    As for the bible it says "the people of Ham are cursed" (Black Africans).

    We as a country see Israel as inferior at our peril. Whatever they have done it is the Holy Land.

    It is time to believe what we have been told in the scriptures. Things are happening very fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taddy Porter View Post
    Nonsense, we can breed out genetic diseases, low IQs and reduce criminality and social dependency for a start.

    The alternative is to allow genetic drift to continue in an urban industrial setting, which means that the lowest classes continuously outbreed the higher, which is what has been going on for centuries.

    Havent you notice how low the quality of human is becoming in Britain?

    What with mass coloured immigration as well, it amounts to racial nihilism of the most destructive kind.

    We are breeding DOWN instead of upwards.

    A catastrophe of breeding has already taken place in Britain since the industrial revolution, which favoured the mass expansion of an urban lower class, and its going to get worse unless policies are reversed.

    Classic progressive mindset, industrialization and technology are causing us a problem and they will provide us with a solution. In a hole? drop the ******* spade.

    Actually the problem you identify is an integral problem with civilization, one definition of a civilization is the ability of organizational and economic structures to prevent people dieing who would do so if left to their own devices, whether that be through water bourne disease, violence, starvation etc.

    The better able a society is to do that the more "civilized" we consider it.

    Of course this leads to the natural laws of selection being suspended and as a consequence the feckless, stupid and desperately unlucky survive to breed until such a time as they overwhelm the ability of the civilization to support them.

    This is a therefore a self correcting mechanism and requires no immoral and ill advised attempts to breed a better race.

    Industrialization has been a ******* disaster, personally I'm glad its all over.
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