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OK, well either the water was salty or the water was fresh. Questions still remain - why didn't all the fish in the oceans die if the flood was fresh water instead? Or are you suggesting that at some point in the last 5000 years the oceans became salty and fish quickly learned to adapt to it? Where is YOUR scientific evidence to back up your claims? Please don't say the Bible. The Bible is not the work of scientists.Originally Posted by Tony Bennett
Well if it wasn't illegal (just as it wasn't *illegal* to have incestuous relations at the time of Adam and Eve), then why did you feel moved to write an inflammatory pamphlet accusing Mohammed of being a paedophile? When clearly he was not a paedophile, by his own society's standards and laws anyway?
And incidentally, when did incest become illegal according to the Bible? It's not in the 10 Commandments as far as I'm aware...
Did he still have his own teeth?
The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil
Go get 'em Tone boy
The Age of Consent and Catholicism
Tonight I noticed this image go by on Reddit. It accompanies this Wikipedia article on the age of consent.
The Age of Consent and Catholicism
I noticed something interesting. There seems to be a strong correlation between a young age of consent (12 to 15 years old) and Catholic countries. I created this little graphic to illustrate.
This image shows the age of consent. The blue countries have an age of consent between 12 to 15 (disgustingly, the age of consent in Yemen is nine, but forgo that for this experiment).
Hover your mouse over the image. It should switch to a shrunken version of this image, which shows various flavours of Christianity by colour. The Catholic countries are yellow
The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil
Tony B. You really need to read this before you call another religion's prophet a paedophile
Ages of consent in Europe - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Spain 13 Portugal 14?
The Vatican City 12?
The function of wisdom is to discriminate between good and evil
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Pedophilia (primary sexual attraction to children) is a psychological-sexual concept and its definition has nothing to do with law or morals.
Nor does the relativity of law and social morals nor the negative argument from incest refute the argument from the 'prophet's' pedophilia.
And the only things 'inflamed' by such apologetics are muslim intolerance and pseudo-liberal 'fascism' which is no objection either.
I brought the subject up because according to Mr Bennett it was perfectly acceptable for the children of Adam and Eve to have sex with each other and make babies because in those days (and in Mr Bennett's words) it was not illegal. It seems to me to be a double standard to then criticise the founder of another religion for something which similarly was not considered illegal or taboo during his time on Earth. According to Mr Bennett re: Mohammed "If that happened in this country today then the person concerned would be charged with child sexual abuse"; similarly if brother and sister set about having lots of children together these days they too might face criminal charges.
Interestingly the historical age of consent for Jewish girls was 12 and in most Western countries in the 19th century an age of between 10 - 13 was considered acceptable.
CD, distinguo if TB reckoned social legality per se to clear the incestuous Adamites of sin then you are correct that he undermined his criticism of PM. If however legality cleared them only per accidens because incest is not contrary to the supposed 'natural law' (but pedophilia is) then there would be no inconsistency. I assume however that you have accurately represented TB's argument pending any correction from TB. Note also that Mary was 9 and Joseph 90 when they betrothed and she was 12 when they married.
The retort that incest was not illegal seems to deny that it is contrary to 'natural law' but TB couldnt say that it is given your point. Bigamy is a similar case as Abraham had two wives and Solomon had hundreds in the Bible. So 'christian' sexual morality is undermined by the Bible, is hypocritical and groundless as you say.
I Kings 11:3
And Solomon had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines.
Boy, he must have been knackered!
Bet he didn't live to be 950 years old
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