youcanhandlethetruth

Thanks WPCIS.

Lazyguy, to clarify because you're missing the point here(probably deliberately).

I said, "the British government are censoring political websites right now." which is true.

You said that I said it is "government wide" when I clearly I did not.

of course, I can still access these sites myself.
If it were "government wide" then I wouldn't be able to.

I don't know why you're laughing because you made the wrong claim but can't admit it.

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youcanhandlethetruth

You seem quite well informed on this subject ghall.

May I ask, when you say "unique address" don't people already have a unique IP address when they surf ? What about where there are many users in the same location using the same access point ?

I don't pretend I know a huge amount about this subject.

Thanks in advance.

By the way - funny joke, such a shame it's actually true.

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youcanhandlethetruth

Just in.........

Law Professor: Counter Terrorism Czar Told Me There Is Going To Be An i-9/11 And An i-Patriot Act

"Lawrence Lessig, a respected Law Professor from Stanford University told an audience at this years Fortune’s Brainstorm Tech conference in Half Moon Bay, California, that “There’s going to be an i-9/11 event” which will act as a catalyst for a radical reworking of the law pertaining to the internet."

During a group panel segment titled “2018: Life on the Net”(watch video clip in article), Lessig stated:

""There’s going to be an i-9/11 event. Which doesn’t necessarily mean an Al Qaeda attack, it means an event where the instability or the insecurity of the internet becomes manifest during a malicious event which then inspires the government into a response. You’ve got to remember that after 9/11 the government drew up the Patriot Act within 20 days and it was passed."".

Infowars states:

"Many believed that the legislation was a response to the attacks of 9/11, but the reality was that the Patriot Act was prepared way in advance of 9/11 and it sat dormant, awaiting an event to justify its implementation."

"Now we discover that exactly the same freedom restricting legislation has already been prepared for the cyber world."

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g hall

IP addressing currently uses 4 octets i.e. 255.255.255.255, obviously there are some restricted addresses. Your ISP has a range of addresses it can use and if I remember correctly (and please jump in if you know better) it assigns a port number to each user when online which is not easily archived.

however IP6 is 255.255.255.255.255.255 which gives a shedload more numbers for use and hence makes it easier to archive individual addresses

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Aardvark

Presumably every individual would get a unique IP from his/her ISP? It would make moderation easier as we would identify sockpuppets efficiently rather than by way of educated guesses. It would make individuals easier to identify and target by those with no scruples.

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whypatcondellisntfun

I'm not sure about a unique port number for each user. For instance, the default port number for a web site is port 80, a single web server can run multiple websites all using port 80. It is likely that we are all using port 80 to access this forum, for instance.

Our ISPs do assign us unique IP addresses and can potentially track the sites we visit, not only that, this forum could potentially track our individual IP addresses and perhaps be able to tell where we are down to country/city level.

Combine the data from sites which track IP addresses with the data from ISPs who know which users have which IP addresses and that is a powerful tool. Has anybody else here heard of Phorm?

I always thought IPV6 was a bit like BT having a number changeover to accommodate more telephone numbers, they are apparently running out of IP addresses so need to make more. I didn't think IPV6 gave any extra tracking abilities as 'they' can already track you if 'they' know your IP address. I could be wrong.

More on IPV6 here.
More on port numbers here

If you want to hide your IP address from the websites you are visiting use a proxy server. Your ISP will still know your IP address, but none of the sites you visit will, and possibly your ISP will have a harder time tracking which sites you are visiting.

If anybody has any corrections to the above, please let me know

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youcanhandlethetruth

Thanks very much for that useful information guys.

WPCIF, where is the option on Windows to "use a proxy server" ?

Cheers.

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youcanhandlethetruth

Ooops I've just seen it's in "instructions to use a proxy server".

Sorry didn't see that......

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whypatcondellisntfun

Indeed. The only thing to watch out for in this regard are corporate networks which will be assigned an 'external' IP address which will hide all their 'internal' IP addresses. So somebody who works at a place with say, 50 other employees each with their own PC is effectively 'sharing' an external IP address with 49 other people, although they do have their own individual IP address within the corporate network.

Same concept with small home networks on broadband. They will be assigned an 'external' IP address which is used by the broadband router, and which all computers on the network will route through.

To check for sock accounts using IP addresses would remove some of the guesswork as I suppose the same IP address will be used within the same space of time to access multiple accounts. I'm sure organisations like YouTube use this to quickly clamp down on people who are banned and who then just start a new account.

If you are using a broadband router which you leave switched on all the time you will have been using the same IP address since your router logged on to your ISP. To get a new IP address (although this may be no guarantee) try switching your router off, and then back on again and see if you have a new IP address. The instructions for your router will tell you how to check the IP address the router is using.

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John Connor

Some ISPs already do this as a matter of course. Demon and Zen, for example, hand out fixed IP addresses already - makes it easier for the user to run servers.

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