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Old 12-07-2008, 11:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Britain has become like a company that has expanded beyond it's capabilities in trying to act as a World Policeman and benefactor. Is it now time, purely for the benefit of the British people to withdraw all foreign aid and armed presence in other Countries, kick out all those who shouldn't be here and become completely self sufficient, but maintaining a strong home defence force?
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As long as it doesn't end up in a state of isolationism, yes.
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As long as it doesn't end up in a state of isolationism, yes.
I would want us to continue to trade in non essentials and to visit other Countries and they visit us!
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Troops and aid? Yes. Trade and repatriation? No.
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Are we speaking about Neutrality here because that is the best way to go IMHO?
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Are we speaking about Neutrality here because that is the best way to go IMHO?
Yes and no! Yes we stay neutral, No we don't become the safe harbour for the Worlds dross, we're doing that already!
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Thats good,I agree with that.

I put up a Neutrality thread last year but nobody wanted it or they just dissed the idea.

Maybe I should search it out and put it up again?
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Britain has become like a company that has expanded beyond it's capabilities in trying to act as a World Policeman and benefactor. Is it now time, purely for the benefit of the British people to withdraw all foreign aid and armed presence in other Countries, kick out all those who shouldn't be here and become completely self sufficient, but maintaining a strong home defence force?
That makes perfect sense.

Now tell us.
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As long as it doesn't end up in a state of isolationism, yes.
It sounds like isolationism to me - not only non-interventionism but the idea of becoming almost completely self-sufficient.

Sorry kernow but I disagree with you on all of your main points about 'withdrawal'.
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It sounds like isolationism to me - not only non-interventionism but the idea of becoming almost completely self-sufficient.
Quite. However I fully believe you can become self-sufficient - by which I mean in essentials: food, water, power & medicine - without becoming isolationist.

Non-interventionism is also a perfectly fine approach to world problems. I think you disagree with me on this but I don't think that our intervention in the world's ticking time bombs has defused them.

As Smidgey says above: troops and aid: yes, trade and repatriation: no. International trade, esp. free trade, is a fundamentally good thing. As I've made clear elsewhere, repatriation in it's usual sense bothers me but I don't think Kernow was advocating that "we send 'home' all the 'blacks'". Rather I think he meant removal of illegal immigrants.
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