BonnieDundee

What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.--Christopher Hitchens

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Leopold Kohr.

NickIrons

As your reading glasses are obviously at Specsavers, a wound
creates a pain reaction in the central nervous system, this is
current medical science, are you asking me to prove that this is
the case as without any evidence to prove this you beleive that
it is not? If so, I refer you to my other post with the words "Glass"
"Head" and "Smash" in it.
All the evidence you'll need will be there.

BonnieDundee

I'm not sure why I'm still wasting time here, but you made the assertion, the burden of proof is on you. The only argument you have seems to actually make your assertions more dubious. I made an assertion and provided empirical evidence, the burden of proof is certainly not on me. I do not intend to answer you again if I get yet another similar response. Good bye.

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"It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state."
-Bruce Schneier

How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

NickIrons

As I have said right from the beginning, it is not possible to
state, 100% that slitting a mammals throat is painless,
it is not measurable, tell me how you measure pain from
a carcass.
The central nervous system will generate a pain reaction to
a wound, however small that maybe, to say that slitting a
mammals throat is painless, is not a fact.

BonnieDundee

You do realise you objection is as valid for your own assertion as for the evidence I provided?

__________________
"It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state."
-Bruce Schneier

How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

NickIrons

You stated that certain methods of slitting a mammals
throat is painless, it is a statement that cannot be proven
100%
And I have said that all the way through, it's not possible
to measure, so again, to say that slitting a mammals throat
is painless, is not a fact.

BonnieDundee

Your objection however rules out any talk of measuring pain or if pain actually takes place. Hence it does not support your argument, in fact it doesn't even allow one to say whether beating the animal to death is worse than stunning it.

__________________
"It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state."
-Bruce Schneier

How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

NickIrons

This sounds like a scratched 7 inch!! The nervous system will react
to a wound, therefore a pain reaction will be felt, and for the
millionth time, to whatever extent that is, however small, there will
be one, unless the central nervous system is not functioning, pain
will be felt. Therefore to say certain methods of slitting a mammals
throat is painless without any shadow of a doubt is not a fact!!!!

And what has beating an animal to death got to do with it!!

Your statement about painless throat slitting is not fact.
And that is all I have stated.

C'est evident que tu as un problem avec la langue Anglais, tu veux
que mon prochain reponse est en Chinoise ou bien!!!!

BonnieDundee

Jesus Christ, it is quite simple, why you can't graps the basic logic I'm not sure. Do you not realise how absurd your argument is or are you just trying to win through repetition?

Stop repeating yourself then.

If as you say pain is completely subjective and completely unmeasurable then you cannot know this. You also cannot know that the act of stunning is less painful than the cut. Do you understand this?

Also what you assert there you make no attempt to prove.

And where is the proof for this assertion. I have given empiricial data which you have not disproven, except with more silly assertions which hurt your argument as much as mine. Please give proof.

Because if as you assert pain is completely subjective and unmeasurable, even roughly, then we cannot tell whether stunning is in fact better than the halal/kosher method or even if it is better than beating the animal to death.

You have stated it but has done very little to prove it and I have in fact given empirical prove. Unless you can give anything but random assertions you in fact have no decent argument or counter.

What do you not understand about proving assertions?

__________________
"It is poor civic hygiene to install technologies that could someday facilitate a police state."
-Bruce Schneier

How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

NickIrons

Show me how it is measured, and the scale that is used to measure it
by, and I'll bow to your superior knowledge, and you can then make me
look a right sht for brains and so daft that I would make a bucket of pigsht look like a member of MENSA...


BTW The word filters do not allow me to spell the words correctly that I wished to have used.