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Old 30-06-2008, 04:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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icliverpool is the web site of The Liverpool Daily Post and The Liverpool Echo.

On 29 June 2008, this was icliverpool's version:

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A teenager died after he was stabbed in a street. Scotland Yard said the victim is thought to have been involved in AN ARGUMENT WITH A GROUP OF BLACK YOUTHS prior to the stabbing in York Way, Islington, north London.
On 30 June 2008, This is London reported thus:

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THE YOUTHS WHO ATTACKED BEN WERE BLACK. Police are looking at the possibility that it was racially motivated.
On 30 June 2008, this was the BBC's official version:

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Ben was attacked during A ROW WITH YOUTHS in York Way, Holloway, north London, at about 0200 BST on Sunday... Scotland Yard said it is thought schoolboy Ben had been at a party at the Shillibeers pub, in North Road, when THE ROW BROKE OUT WITH SEVERAL YOUTHS.
On 30 June 2008, this was the BBC's unofficial version:


Just moments before 16-year-old Ben was fatally stabbed, he phoned his friend, David Dugdale.

David said that he received the call as Ben was being chased and added:

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He called me on the phone and just said, 'help me, help me', then the phone went dead. He sounded petrified.
Another friend, who refused to give his name, said:

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There was a fight. I don't think Ben was involved at first but it got out of hand... Ben tried to run away but he was chased. I heard someone shout 'get him, get him', and then he was stabbed. I think he was stabbed in the back and chest and there was blood everywhere...

There was nothing I could do.
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Ben was such a great person. He was a joker, always making people laugh. He was never in trouble - he would be the one to stop the trouble. He was a straight A student. He had his whole life ahead of him.

He was innocent.
Ben, who was celebrating the end of his GCSEs with classmates from Holloway School, had gone to Shillibeers bar in Islington.

They were allowed in. However, a group of black youths was not.

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All the lads were meant to meet at Shillibeers for a quick drink. These other boys were saying, 'Get us in, get us in' but they got refused, while Ben and everyone went inside.

When the party was over everyone came out to get more drinks from the offlicence but it was closed. As they walked back up the road the youths were still there. That's when it kicked off and escalated. They stabbed him and left him for dead.
So, a decent, young British lad was stabbed to death out of spite then.

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You got let in, we didn't. You deserve to die!
The brother of Brooke Kinsella, who played Kelly Taylor in Eastenders, Ben wrote this on his MySpace page:

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I GET ON WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYONE … Always trying to entertain, make people laugh, brighten up the place.
It doesn't matter, Ben.

When the animals at the top of the tree unlock the cages of the animals at the bottom of the tree you are in danger.

The animal does not give a damn how pleasant and friendly you are. It doesn't matter to such creatures how good you are, how much fun you are or how much you are loved by those who know you, they will attack you if they are in the mood to do so.

The animals at the top of the tree are at war with us, Ben.

The animals at the bottom are their footsoldiers.

Very soon now there will be a series of treason trials.

The people of this country will be demanding to know why the PC Crowd refused to warn the Ben Kinsellas of the danger. They will want to know why those who always knew the score kept the identity of the animals at the bottom of the tree hidden for as long as they could. They will want to know why the politically correct kept on insisting that diversity and enrichment were wonderful things when, all the time, the Ben Kinsellas were dying at the hands of the diverse and the enriching.

No excuse will do when all the FACTS are known. When the unofficial versions are all revealed many, many of the creatures, who now inhabit the uppermost layers of the canopy, will be found guilty of treason.

When the enormity of the treachery becomes known, I should imagine that the British people will show them as much mercy as Ben Kinsella's killers showed him.

Two youths were arrested, suspected of the murder of an entertainer who was always trying to "make people laugh" and "brighten up the place".

TWO YOUTHS HAVE SINCE BEEN RELEASED ON BAIL!

Take it from me, icliverpool and This is London:

The murderers presently at liberty to murder again ARE BLACK!

If you want to know what gives the media darling the confidence to manipulate the bad news in such a partial, anti-indigenous way, check out what the quintessential PC politician has to say on the matter in TRUTH: LIVINGSTONE STYLE at the YouTube web site.

This is Ben Kinsella:
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They said on the Ten o clock News last night it was 4 black youths.

4 black youths murdering 1 white youth = Murder.

4 white youths murdering 1 black youth = Racist murder.
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There is no evidence that the ethnicity of the four youths alleged to have been involved in the death of Kinsella was of any significance.

On that basis there was no cause for it to be disclosed.

There is a prima face case for the exclusion of four black youths from premises to which the public have access on the basis of their ethnicity being a crime and that should be investigated just as intensely as the cause of death of Kinsella.
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There is no evidence that the ethnicity of the four youths alleged to have been involved in the death of Kinsella was of any significance.

On that basis there was no cause for it to be disclosed.

There is a prima face case for the exclusion of four black youths from premises to which the public have access on the basis of their ethnicity being a crime and that should be investigated just as intensely as the cause of death of Kinsella.
I am horrified that you believe 'the exclusion of youths based on their ethnicity' should be investigated as intensely as the murder of a young boy.

So does that mean that a venue that turned away 4 blokes should have the same police scrutiny as those who are investigating a murder.

Many people have been turned away from venues for a whole host of reasons and do you seriously believe that police enquiries are needed?
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I am horrified that you believe 'the exclusion of youths based on their ethnicity' should be investigated as intensely as the murder of a young boy.

So does that mean that a venue that turned away 4 blokes should have the same police scrutiny as those who are investigating a murder.

Many people have been turned away from venues for a whole host of reasons and do you seriously believe that police enquiries are needed?
More police resources are bound to be required in the investigation of a suspected murder but racial crimes such as exclusion simply on the basis of ethnicity as appears to have taken place is a very nasty crime indeed.

Such behaviour must be confronted and the guilty punished.

I note that the police are said to be “keeping an open mind on the motives for the killing”
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I knew it would be Blacks because the newspapers this morning did not give a description. Don't forget these savage criminals were imported here and imposed on us by our decadent rulers. In the same way they can be returned. They are not part of our society.
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racial crimes such as exclusion simply on the basis of ethnicity as appears to have taken place is a very nasty crime indeed.

Such behaviour must be confronted and the guilty punished.

Where does it say they were refused entry on grounds of ethnicity?

Maybe they were refused as they were already drunk.
Maybe they were refused because they were wearing jeans or trainers.
Maybe they were refused as one or more was carrying a weapon.

Only the doormen and by now the police will know why they were barred from the venue.

I would prefer to think about the lad who was killed and his grieving family than the hurt feelings of 4 blokes who knifed someone in a cowardly, brutal attack.


Sincere and heartfelt condolences to Ben Kinsella's family.
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Where does it say they were refused entry on grounds of ethnicity?

Maybe they were refused as they were already drunk.
Maybe they were refused because they were wearing jeans or trainers.
Maybe they were refused as one or more was carrying a weapon.

Only the doormen and by now the police will know why they were barred from the venue.

I would prefer to think about the lad who was killed and his grieving family than the hurt feelings of 4 blokes who knifed someone in a cowardly, brutal attack.


Sincere and heartfelt condolences to Ben Kinsella's family.
Of course it is beyond tragedy to loose a close family member but the police are keeping a open mind regarding the incident.

I have no doubt that a great deal more will emerge.
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There is no evidence that the ethnicity of the four youths alleged to have been involved in the death of Kinsella was of any significance.

On that basis there was no cause for it to be disclosed.

There is a prima face case for the exclusion of four black youths from premises to which the public have access on the basis of their ethnicity being a crime and that should be investigated just as intensely as the cause of death of Kinsella.
Legitimate Property holders should have the right to decide who comes onto there property. Or at least the small and medium sized owners should at least, I'm afraid Bear. Otherwise it weakens the defence functional, legitmate and well dispersed property gives against the state aiding in liberty and security.
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There is no evidence that the ethnicity of the four youths alleged to have been involved in the death of Kinsella was of any significance.

On that basis there was no cause for it to be disclosed.
There is every basis if you are appealling for witnesses.

If you are it makes absolutely no sense to omit someone's most salient characteristic - except in PC World, of course.
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