The Bear

To start with confronting bulging eyed fascists who push garbage as fact wherever and whenever I can.

That's just the start.

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The Bear

Nor do the tens of thousands of people forced to live in them. This thread shows how given the help to escape from such a situation a person can make good.

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Mikeuk

You are free to hold such opinions.

Of course I have to tolerate morally delinquent conduct in some friends, work colleagues etc, but I will never tolerate it in my family.

I have a relative who remains married to a wife he no longer lives with and lives with some woman to whom he is not married.

Neither of them are welcome to enter my home, nor will they ever be.

Mikeuk

Oh I see. By posting endless Pollyanna-style BS on here you are actually helping the helpless!!!!!!

Thanks for telling me.

Mikeuk

Rubbish. Of course the preposterous idea that all individuals have 'unlimited potential' goes hand-in-hand with the lie of racial equality which caused so much mischief during the last century.

The mega-wealthy and mega-powerful rely on useful idiots like you to tell the Great Unwashed that they are all valued (like that voice on the phone while your bill mounts up and nobody answers) and that with any luck they may win the lottery and be as rich as the Queen or at any rate Sir Alan Sugar.

It's all bunk of course, and cruel bunk at that.

But congratulations on serving your puppetmasters so obediently. Maybe they will award you the British Empire Medal.

Aardvark

I don't mind people escaping the sink estates and doing well in life, but I wonder if the lady has made any attempt to recompense, or even apologise to, her victims. Sinners stopping sinning is one thing, sinners repenting is another in its entirety.

Marriage documents are an artificial construct of the 16th century and are not referred to in the Bible. Two people who live together for their whole life without a piece of paper are more fortunate than those who have the piece of paper and discover that they're in the wrong relationship.

Mike, all humans fart at least 8 times a day. On a balance they do it in church as well. I'm sure I must have as I have spent a seemingly inordinate anount of time in churches and Christian services - only 3 this year I'm afraid so I won't be at the top table and nor will the hypocrites who are there every week and preach morality without love and compassion to or for their fellow men.

People who fart in church are always invited back. The invite to the Lord's supper is universal and eternal for all those who believe. Farting doesn't remove faith nor does it remove the right to attend any Church of England service at any time a person wishes since nobody can be excluded from the state church, ever. As those who know realise this means you may attend a confirmation, wedding, funeral or baptism at any CoE church without invite or notice. They are public ceremonies and nobody has the right to exclude anybody from them, farting or not.

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The Bear

Not “unlimited potential”, that has never been suggested. What is true is that we all have potential and that many are prevented from reaching that potential by the society or the conditions within which they live.

In addition of course there is a difference between racial congruence and racial equality. All races of the world are not congruent, but all races within a nation should and must be treated equally in every way to each other even if it needs positive discrimination to counter dinosaur bigots.

All are not yet equally valued but all should be and soon will be.

It isn’t, at least it isn’t in the mind of decent people.

There are those of us, fortunately in the great majority, who see through the silly idea of racial supremacy and simply see people. We don’t need anyone to tell us such is so, we learn it from experience.

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The Bear

It's better to light even a single candle than just sit bitching about the dark.

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BonnieDundee

Of course your morality is meaningless and not based on actual unethical or negative behaviour towards individuals. It is just contrary to xtian scripture.

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How to Overthrow the System: brew your own beer; kick in your TV; build your own cabin and p*ss off front porch whenever you bloody well feel like it.
Edward Abbey

Leopold Kohr.

Tara

THE NEGRO CRIME RATE: A FAILURE IN INTEGRATION - TIME

THE NEGRO CRIME RATE: A FAILURE IN INTEGRATION

THEY are afraid to say so in public, but many of the North's big-city mayors groan in private that their biggest and most worrisome problem is the crime rate among Negroes.

1,551 U.S. cities, according to the FBI tally for 1956, Negroes, making up 10% of the U.S. population, accounted for about 30% of all arrests, and 60% of the arrests for crimes involving violence or threat of bodily harm—murder, non-negligent manslaughter, rape, robbery and aggravated assault. In one city after another, the figures—where they are not hidden or suppressed by politicians—reveal a shocking pattern. Items:

New York (14% Negro). Of the prisoners confined in houses of detention last year to await court disposition of their cases, 44% of the males and 65% of the females were Negroes.

Chicago (15% Negro). In 1956 twice as many Negroes as whites—1,366 to 679—were arrested on charges of murder, non-negligent manslaughter, rape and robbery.

Detroit (25% Negro). Two out of three prisoners held in the Wayne County jail are Negroes. Last month 62% of. the defendants presented for trial in Recorder's Court were Negroes. Of last year's 25,216 arrests resulting in prosecution, excluding traffic cases, Negroes accounted for 12,919.

Los Angeles (13% Negro). In 1956 Negroes accounted for 28% of all arrests, and 48% of the arrests for homicide, rape, aggravated assault, robbery, burglary, larceny and auto theft.

San Francisco (7% Negro). The victims in 896 of last year's 1,564 recorded robbery cases reported that the assailants were Negroes.

Negro leaders sometimes argue passionately that arrest statistics wildly distort the comparative incidence of crime among Negroes and whites because cops are more likely to arrest Negroes for petty crimes or on mere suspicion. Protests Executive Editor Charles Wartman of Detroit's Michigan Chronicle, a Negro weekly: "The number of Negroes booked is at least partially indicative of subconscious if not conscious racial persecution on the part of police officers."

But inequality of treatment by the police may actually tend to shrink rather than inflate the statistics of Negro crime. Says Newsman Wartman in the next breath: "When Negroes violate social morals—sex, drinking, gambling—white cops bypass this as 'typically Negro.' " Many Negro leaders protest that the police are far from diligent enough in dealing with crimes committed against Negroes—and Negroes are the victims in the great majority of Negro crimes of violence. Since Negroes, even when they are victims or innocent bystanders, are often wary of calling the police, many offenses of disorder and assault go unreported when committed by Negroes in the depths of a ghetto.

Whether the statistics of Negro crime overstate or understate the reality, they are shrouded from public attention by what a Chicago judge last week called a "conspiracy of concealment." In many cities, Negro leaders and organizations such as the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People put pressure on politicians, city officials and newspapers to play down the subject. Fearing loss of Negro votes, few elected officials dare to resist the pressures.

the concealment campaign is the feeling shared by many whites that it is unfair, inflammatory and even un-American to talk about Negro crime. This feeling is reflected in the widespread newspaper practice of not mentioning a criminal's race unless he is at large and the fact would help in identifying him.

In hiding the facts about Negro crime, the "conspiracy of concealment" helps blur the causes of it. Negro leaders themselves often put forward explanations that are oversimple. Some hold that Negro crime is largely the result of migrations from the South: in the unfamiliar environment of the North, the argument runs, Negroes tend to be more crime-prone, just like white immigrants from abroad. But in fact, some studies have shown that, contrary to popular conviction, crime rates among foreign-born whites were lower than among U.S.-born whites.

Most often, Negro leaders point to poverty as the No. 1 factor in Negro crime. As Editor Louis Martin of the Chicago Defender sees it, the main cause is poor and crowded housing. But the moderate crime rates among European immigrants, subject to similar stresses of poverty and bad housing, suggest that other factors may be more important.

Providing better housing for impoverished Negroes is a necessity, but it would not solve the problem of Negro crime. Crime rates run high in the Negro slums of Harlem and South Side Chicago, but they also run high in the Negro districts of Los Angeles and San Francisco, where the houses are comparatively decent. As many a public-housing official has learned to his dismay, better housing does not automatically bring about the improvement in character and conduct that do-gooders used to predict. Slum dwellers who move into brand-new public-housing projects often turn them into new slums as verminous and crime-ridden as the tenements they left behind.

Negro leadership could make a start toward lowering Negro crime rates by abandoning the conspiracy of concealment and urging full disclosure of the facts to be met. Once they faced the facts, Negro leaders and organizations—including the N.A.A.C.P.—could help by wholeheartedly undertaking short-term efforts of rehabilitation, by accepting responsibility in an area where they habitually look the other way.

But even heroic efforts by Negro leadership could only dent the Negro crime problem, because essentially it is a white problem. And it will remain a severe problem until Northern whites, private citizens as well as civic officials, recognize that Negro crime is basically a symptom of a failure in integration, and start attacking discrimination in the North with the same fervor they show in arguing for civil rights in the South.

Unlike the Caucasian immigrant of an earlier day, a Negro can scarcely ever hope, even in the North, that the white society will really accept him on his human merits. Negroes are more prone than whites to break the laws, rules and customs of society because they are excluded from full membership in it. In gross and subtle ways, from unwritten bans on employing Negroes to the faintly patronizing tone that even liberal-hearted whites take toward them, Negroes are made to feel alien and inferior. This pervasive discrimination holds down capable Negroes at the top of the social ladder, dims their voices among their own people, builds up tensions and resentments inside the Negro society, and keeps great masses of Negroes segregated in ghettos where the standards of personal morality, discipline and responsibility are lower than those in the white world outside.

"Slam enough doors in a man's face, and he may break one of them down," said San Francisco's Negro Deputy City Attorney R. J. Reynolds last week. The way to reduce the percentage of Negro crime, he believes, is to stop slamming the doors, or at least, as a start, give the Negro a new hope that maybe the next door won't be slammed. Spreading the message of that new hope, he says, is a responsibility that Negro leaders will be very glad to assume.

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