The Bear

So don't whinge about him having more than you!

Actually his products especially his “sound systems” were high quality goods.

People who bought them wanted cheap things that worked after a fashion and mostly looked the part.

Since they met those requirements, and since being high quality is complying with the requirements, the stuff he sold was just that, of high quality.

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Mikeuk

If you believe that you are more of a fool than you pretend to be.

The cabinets contained electronics bought as odd lots in Taiwan etc. Last year's model would contain an entirely different set of stuff from this year's and anybody who came in with a complaint found that new parts couldn't be obtained.

I wouldn't have touched the trash. My sound system is by Bang and Olufsen so I should know something about quality.

The Bear

A product can legitimately be said to be of high quality if it is compliant with its requirements.

A “marketeer” identifies (or even creates) a market and communicates the market requirements to the production facility.

They turn out goods that comply with that requirement and send them to be sold.

The salesman then provides the function to match the end customer of the product with what’s on the shelf.

If the salesman can convince the customer that the customers requirements align with the product specifications a sale can take place.

But caveat emptor!

Just as the salesman is responsible for correctly communicating the product capabilities to the customer, so the customer must ensure that his requirements are being met.

Amstrad addressed a market for cheap “bling” products for people who didn’t understand what they were buying or even what the products they were buying were intended to really do so long as they looked the part.

AS I wrote, caveat emptor!

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Mikeuk

Oh right. I forgot that you were into the MBA box-ticking definition of 'quality'

We had this when I was in the Revenue. Your work could be good, bad or indifferent but 'quality' consisted of answering every question on the docket and inserting the appropriate code.

This was about the time we were told that our 'values' included the usual garbage about gays, ethnics, feminazis etc.

Typical 1984 brainwashed pap.

The Bear

If that was what your job description covered then that is what you should have been doing.

Look, what’s the point in building a highly engineered car (for example) that has an MTBF of around five years and an MTTR of half an hour with a finish that ensures no corrosion for ten years for a market that wants a cheap runabout that an MTBF of six months is perfectly acceptable, as is an MTTR of a day or so, if the cost of the first is £20,000 and the second is £5,000 when cost is of the essence to the customer?

HIS definition of quality is that the price is right, and it does what he wants to an acceptable degree.

Exceed that, and you’re not delivering shareholder value as you should be since you are eating into shareholder profits, as well as stymieing opportunities for a business to have a bottom line that allows it to invest in new products.

It’s not “1984 pap”, it’s good business sense.

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Mikeuk

It's cra*p. I can hardly follow what you're on about. I was a valuer; not an equal opportunities expert.

The best British car I ever had was a Morgan 4/4 roadster. I don't suppose for a moment they followed your advice.

a swansong 4 europe

So Christian teachings, and that of a volume of sayings in the bible, are actually compatable with the fundamental gay principles that a man's ass is as attractive to another man as a women's? What a load of b*llocks

Mikeuk

It's being pushed by the scum who have invaded the Church, by the Red Nazis who run this police state, and of course by Bear and the upholders of the sewer that is Scum Nation.

Time for an Auto-da-fe.

david H

Real progress is being made in the US -

Marriage Protection Amendment introduced in U.S. Senate; forbids forcing homosexual marriage on all Americans

U.S. Senator Roger Wicker has introduced the Marriage Protection Amendment in the U.S. Senate. This constitutional amendment would keep liberal activist judges from forcing homosexual marriage on every American.
This constitutional amendment simply states: "Marriage in the United States shall consist only of the union of a man and a woman. Neither this Constitution, nor the constitution of any State, shall be construed to require that marriage or the legal incidents thereof be conferred upon any union other than the union of a man and a woman."

Action Alert: Marriage Protection Amendment

Mikeuk

Sounds like good news.