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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: central Arkansas, USA
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I heard about this on a Ron Paul forum a couple of weeks ago and just
now have had the time to do some researching. It doesn't appear to be a scam. Here's what one said about it. How does it work, what is it, and what do you get? Let's begin what it is not. You are not going to create a car you fill up with your hose. And it does not claim to. (it does include a dozen plans to 100% water powered car plans, but the average person will not be able to build it. The other main issue is you have to construct the device yourself. The last and biggest problem is it requires some tinkering skills to make. (NOTE: ALL assembly required.) It should take an afternoon to put it together. It did only take simple tools, with the exception of maybe a soldering gun. Now, what do you get? Lots of promises, like double your gas mileage, increased power, cleaner emissions, lower engine temperatures, and longer life of engine. (Read on to see if they're true.) I am sick of scams. The Water4Gas scam did look good. It includes several digital books (which you have to read on your computer or print out, another downfall.) One is the directions to five different devices you can put together to save gas. The others only compliment the main device. The second book is full of ideas to further enhance the device, and how to save fuel. They include a report which shows you how to get the government to pay for your changes to your automobile. Two freebies they throw in are over 1,000 pages of forgotten energy saving inventions and secrets, plans to 12 completely water powered car designs. The biggest thing you get, (which you have to buy to gain access..Bummer) other than the main book, is you gain membership in a free marketplace. The open market has ready to install kits you can buy if you don't want to build your own, at a big savings. You can chat with other people all over the world who have already bought and installed the device. Again, you have to buy the book first, to participate. So, what does it do? In a nutshell, it uses your battery to extract hydrogen from water. It blends the hydrogen with your fuel in your engine, using the fuel more efficiently, thus saving you money. So, is the Water4Gas scam, the real deal or not? The simple fact is, at least in this case, people cry scam because they don't bother to educate themselves first. Are there frauds out there, yes. I figured on getting ripped off when I bought it. However upon scanning through the instructions and books, I thought, this makes sense. So, I spent $57 and built the device and installed it. I am not as devoted as some of the people I've found. Consequently, I did not double my mileage, I only increased just over 50%. 21 mpg to 33 mpg, in my car. Not bad. Is it a scam? No. Over 15,000 people have purchased the eBook in over 50 countries. I'm asking why isn't this top line news everywhere? So, about the Water4Gas scam. You do have choices. One just ignore this information, and continue to pay more than you need to for fuel (don't worry OPEC will be fair), or two take action. You don't have to be a politician to make a difference. You can help design the future, one car at a time. Here's the website. I'm still not sure so I haven't purchased the books. Water Car Run on WATER+Fuel. Hydrogen Save Gas=FREE ENERGY!
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Join Date: Aug 2008
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hey, I have heard a lot about this. here is the link to the information that is going crazy in the USA at the moment.
Water4Gas | Run A Car On Water good stuff! Got it myself |
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Hard Working Families' Socialist Republic of Untied Kingdomistan
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I saw a similar website (assume it's the same people) and it states that it works on both petrol and diesel vehicles. I *really* can't see how that works, to be honest.
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: East Anglia
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Injecting a water aerosol into a BIG diesel engine can improve the amount of air that is ingested, especially in hot climates, in the same way water aerosol injection into the air intake on a petrol engine can work in a similar manner and for the same reasons, but that’s about it.
The idea that since the electrolysis of water produces a gas combination that is explosive and that this gas produces a rapid burn, much faster than the usual burn within an engine, that’s just plain daft. Apart from anything else it’s the last thing anyone would want to happen since if enough gaseous hydrogen and oxygen was present within the cylinder the fuel burn would be over before the inlet valve shut resulting in rapid inlet valve burnout and if the ignition timing was changed to take account of that the effect would then be be to make the engine “pink” like a bucket of nuts and bolts being rolled down a cobbled street. As for the electrolysis of water, the energy that goes into the disassociation of hydrogen and oxygen within the water molecule has to come from somewhere, in this case from the output of the engine so taking account of electrical losses alone the result is a net loss energy budget. No, it’s just another form of snake oil.
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