The World of Tomorrow

tito · 12-05-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kernow

I certainly like your wish list prophecy, especially the threat of Islamism being wiped from the map!
"Everyone will be realistic and content with achieving of their values". Has about as much chance of happening as the "second coming" of Christ!

In my opinion Human society will continue to move forward as it always has. There'll be good guys and bad guys as there always has. There will be Wars as usual! Man as an animal has never improved, he may be bigger and be more Worldly wise but he still craves wealth and power, which is the reason mankind continue to move forward. There always has and always will be leaders and the lead! Until a bloody great rock from outer space whistles in and wipes out the planet Earth, mankind will continue on a daily basis breaking all Ten Commandments!

Yes, man will move forward as he always has.

From the swamp, to the cave to the skyscraper.

From the savage tribes to Rome and the United States of America.

From burning heretics and mysticism to rationality.

There will be temporary hiccups; but things will get better.

kernow · 12-05-2008, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tito

Yes, man will move forward as he always has.

From the swamp, to the cave to the skyscraper.

From the savage tribes to Rome and the United States of America.

From burning heretics and mysticism to rationality.

There will be temporary hiccups; but things will get better.

You've obviously been, "over the hill and seen the promised land!?

The Bear · 12-05-2008, 03:48 PM

Rotating power and utilities outages and rationing to conserve energy.

Food tax based on health and carbon footprint.

“Insulation” tax on houses

“sheltered communal accommodation” for the elderly.

Euthanasia

Abortion on demand

Workfare

Islamic regions recognised in law

Tachographs in cars and legal limit on drivers hours.

ID cards (?) used as bank cards / credit cards /for buying goods & services, to be presented for any journey of more than five miles, for all state provided services and on demand.

NHS charges.

Rickets.

TB

Polio (it’s still around despite what’s said)

Leprosy

No cure (admitted) for AIDS

No cure (admitted) for cancer

Cost vs social benefits assessment for any significant medicine or NHS treatment.

No housing benefit paid, communal living centres for those who can’t afford their own homes.

If you want to see Britain or the US in 100 years, just look at China 20 years ago but without the raw materials.

kernow · 12-05-2008, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bear

Rotating power and utilities outages and rationing to conserve energy.

Food tax based on health and carbon footprint.

“Insulation” tax on houses

“sheltered communal accommodation” for the elderly.

Euthanasia

Abortion on demand

Workfare

Islamic regions recognised in law

Tachographs in cars and legal limit on drivers hours.

ID cards (?) used as bank cards / credit cards /for buying goods & services, to be presented for any journey of more than five miles, for all state provided services and on demand.

NHS charges.

Rickets.

TB

Polio (it’s still around despite what’s said)

Leprosy

No cure (admitted) for AIDS

No cure (admitted) for cancer

Cost vs social benefits assessment for any significant medicine or NHS treatment.

No housing benefit paid, communal living centres for those who can’t afford their own homes.

If you want to see Britain or the US in 100 years, just look at China 20 years ago but without the raw materials.

Oh ye of little faith!

rjt · 12-05-2008, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kernow

I certainly like your wish list prophecy, especially the threat of Islamism being wiped from the map!
"Everyone will be realistic and content with achieving of their values". Has about as much chance of happening as the "second coming" of Christ!

In my opinion Human society will continue to move forward as it always has. There'll be good guys and bad guys as there always has. There will be Wars as usual! Man as an animal has never improved, he may be bigger and be more Worldly wise but he still craves wealth and power, which is the reason mankind continue to move forward. There always has and always will be leaders and the lead! Until a bloody great rock from outer space whistles in and wipes out the planet Earth, mankind will continue on a daily basis breaking all Ten Commandments!

Leaving aside the rock and the second coming on the subject of craving wealth and power and breaking all 10 commandments i tend to agree with you.

tito · 12-05-2008, 10:28 PM

Kernow, a desire for wealth and economic power is the most moral of motivators.

No, I've not been over the hill, I just know that prolonged tyranny is impossible.

kernow · 13-05-2008, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tito

I just know that prolonged tyranny is impossible.

I bet "Attila the Hun" didn't think that!

Millennium3 · 13-05-2008, 04:02 AM

The religious references are interesting. C G Jung [avatar] considered his work as an an anatomy of the brain and defined one area as 'the religious function'. Essentially that we have this function and it will be filled with something.

Western religions, which are offered as concepts rather than being used to brainwash the young, are on the wane, probably because, objectively, the view that, based on an individual's behaviour in one life - irrespective of circumstances, our destiny is either perpetual delight in heaven or eternal damnation in hell, does not stack up. Eastern religions, which offer rebirth - the circumstances of which depends on behaviour in the previous life [which does seem more likely if there is a part of us that survives death] have not declined in the same way.

The decline of Christianity, in particular, in the West has been replaced by the religion of 'getting and spending' [formally known as greed], this relates to Kernow's 'wealth and power' posting. If some new religious concept, which does dampen the stark desire for 'getting and spending' or 'wealth and power' does not evolve, we are in for an extensive period of conflict as our animal natures are given full licence to wreak their havoc.

Smidgey · 13-05-2008, 08:34 AM

Hopefully it will be like this:

Westcountryman · 13-05-2008, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Smidgey

Hopefully it will be like this:

Hear hear!

12-05-2008, 03:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
The Bear Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: East Anglia Posts: 1,730	Rotating power and utilities outages and rationing to conserve energy. Food tax based on health and carbon footprint. “Insulation” tax on houses “sheltered communal accommodation” for the elderly. Euthanasia Abortion on demand Workfare Islamic regions recognised in law Tachographs in cars and legal limit on drivers hours. ID cards (?) used as bank cards / credit cards /for buying goods & services, to be presented for any journey of more than five miles, for all state provided services and on demand. NHS charges. Rickets. TB Polio (it’s still around despite what’s said) Leprosy No cure (admitted) for AIDS No cure (admitted) for cancer Cost vs social benefits assessment for any significant medicine or NHS treatment. No housing benefit paid, communal living centres for those who can’t afford their own homes. If you want to see Britain or the US in 100 years, just look at China 20 years ago but without the raw materials. __________________ I am an old man. I have eaten much salt.

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Smidgey Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,033 Party: Libertarian Party	Hopefully it will be like this: __________________ How vain is man, who boasts in fight the valour of gigantic might! -Georg Friedrich Händel

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13-05-2008, 04:02 AM	#18 (permalink)
Millennium3 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Berkshire Posts: 3,692	The religious references are interesting. C G Jung [avatar] considered his work as an an anatomy of the brain and defined one area as 'the religious function'. Essentially that we have this function and it will be filled with something. Western religions, which are offered as concepts rather than being used to brainwash the young, are on the wane, probably because, objectively, the view that, based on an individual's behaviour in one life - irrespective of circumstances, our destiny is either perpetual delight in heaven or eternal damnation in hell, does not stack up. Eastern religions, which offer rebirth - the circumstances of which depends on behaviour in the previous life [which does seem more likely if there is a part of us that survives death] have not declined in the same way. The decline of Christianity, in particular, in the West has been replaced by the religion of 'getting and spending' [formally known as greed], this relates to Kernow's 'wealth and power' posting. If some new religious concept, which does dampen the stark desire for 'getting and spending' or 'wealth and power' does not evolve, we are in for an extensive period of conflict as our animal natures are given full licence to wreak their havoc.