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Old 24-04-2008, 07:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default England at its most Nationalistic in 30 years

Is it just me or has anyone else felt a real change in Patriotic and Nationalistic feeling in this country this month.
Everyone I speak to seems to mention immigrants and of them having had enough.
UKIP and the BNP are on the rise.
Enoch's been all over the news and St Georges dad has been the most celebrated perhaps since the 60's.
A friend of mine in his 40 said to me that England hasn’t been like this since the Ugandan Asians came in and the National Front was at its back in the mid 1970's which got me thinking is England at its most Nationalistic in 30 years?
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The answer is no.

Now,the Falklands though,there in lies another tale of Patriotic Nationalism.
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Now, the Falklands though - there in lies another tale of Patriotic Nationalism.
I was pleased that Lady Thatcher gave Labour a good hammering in and after the Falklands dispute (i.e. local elections 1982 and at the 1983 General Election).

And the people of our Falkland Islands/South Georgia are enormously grateful to our brave troops and to her determination to get their freedom and sovereignty back.
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I was pleased that Lady Thatcher gave Labour a good hammering in and after the Falklands dispute (i.e. local elections 1982 and at the 1983 General Election).
I wasn't.

One thing I don't like and don't think is good for the UK is the jingoistic kind of nationalism and partriotism you see in the US(or Germany in the 30s.) and seem to be seeing, unfortunately, in Australia. We don't need that. It is just pure collectivism. We need our brand of dignified national and regional feeling.
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bunnie,these days,if we continue to be polite,offer the other cheek,others will take this as a sign of complete submissiveness,times they are a changing and you and the rest of us need to start to demonstrate that we are ready,willing and completely able to defend our end of the country,regardless of numbers,or,threats.

Without this,we are gonners,doomed,and dead.

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I wasn't.

One thing I don't like and don't think is good for the UK is the jingoistic kind of nationalism and partriotism you see in the US(or Germany in the 30s.) and seem to be seeing, unfortunately, in Australia. We don't need that. It is just pure collectivism. We need our brand of dignified national and regional feeling.
The English used to be the most openly Patriotic and Nationalistic people on Earth.
We have been cowed with 40 years of political correctness and left wing dogma since.
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I think we are slowing waking to the lies we have been fed all these years.
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Is it just me or has anyone else felt a real change in Patriotic and Nationalistic feeling in this country this month.
Everyone I speak to seems to mention immigrants and of them having had enough.
UKIP and the BNP are on the rise.
Enoch's been all over the news and St Georges dad has been the most celebrated perhaps since the 60's.
A friend of mine in his 40 said to me that England hasn’t been like this since the Ugandan Asians came in and the National Front was at its back in the mid 1970's which got me thinking is England at its most Nationalistic in 30 years?
I hope this isn't the precedent; bearing in mind what an abject failure the National Front turned out to be.

I'm in my late 40s as well, and my recollection of the mid 1970s differs to your friend's.
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The English used to be the most openly Patriotic and Nationalistic people on Earth.
We have been cowed with 40 years of political correctness and left wing dogma since.
I don't think blind patriotism or nationalism helps anyone. I can't really even understand such feelings for an abstraction. Dignified regional feeling for the area you grew up in or live in and the people you see everyday I can understand but not jingoistic patriotism for Scotland or England. This is why I'm not a Scots nationalist, my feelings are mostly for the Western highlands, Mallaig way.
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One thing I don't like and don't think is good for the UK is the jingoistic kind of nationalism and patriotism you see in the US.....
We don't seek anything jingoistic - but we want the attempt by the politically correct ruling 'elite' to try to put and keep everyone in these islands 'on a guilt trip' about being British to stop.

Earlier this week it was St. George's Day (England's national day) but no one on television wore the English rose. I think it is the same on St. Patrick's Day, St. Andrew's Day and St. David's day (at least regarding television programmes put out across the UK). Saints Days of the four parts of the UK are mostly ignored by the national broadcast media. Why?
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