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I can't see the problem with the name - the political problems we face relate precisely to the issue the party's name refers to, the lack of UK Independence. If someone can come up with a run-away better name then fine, but I haven't seen it yet.

People may currently scoff at UKIP in some circles but events can mean we become seen as meaningful rather than risible.

TannyD

Party for an Independant England? Yummy...
Can't think of any other new names to put forward as possibilities for UKIP renaming. But I will up-date you all when I do.

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TannyD

Would you rather have one pie to eat in half-hour or 5 to eat in the same amount of time? Which would you think would be the more successful project?

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Englishdan

The problem will be if the UK disintigrates, will you wait and see what happens before you change anything, just happy to play catchup

TannyD

Before we can become independant sulf-sufficient we need to put in place all the things that enable us to do that, I understand that. Things like control over fuel within our own borders and the amount of people willing to do the jobs that are needed to be filling in order to keep the economy in keep so to increase the properity and eventual economic growth after the event of us becoming independant.

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B.A.Ware

Its not what i want its what the public demand of a political party.

The one pie you mention blatantly does not appeal to the electorate as can be seen by comparing our election results with the BNP.

Also by offering only one pie you have severely restricted your market especially as there are plenty of other parties offering all sorts of pies.

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TannyD

Well how's this for a range?


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B.A.Ware

Should be plenty there to appeal to the wider electorate.

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TannyD

Yes, there should be, and after a few drinks they shouldn't be too difficult or picky....

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youcanhandlethetruth

I fully agree with Matt, except now, judging by some of the comments (or should I say lack of) made by UKIP members on this site I have reservations about whether UKIP seriously want to gain democratic control of the HoC or whether the leadership are more interested in feathering their own nests by becoming MP's and merely appearing to support UK Independence.

As I've said before, if UKIP attempt to play the political correct game of politics against the media and the main political parties they are destined to fail.

The only way to gain power and change anything is to go on the offensive against the establishment and expose the deep rooted corruption that is at the core of Britain, and across the world - only then will voices on the ground inspire others to join the bandwagon....

Of course people are not swayed by the logo or the promise of "independence" because joe public hasn't a clue.

It's up to UKIP to inpire, lead and go balls out for the truth that everyone wants to hear(even if they initially want to deny it).....

UKIP policies are being sold by 2nd class salesmen who offer a product of "independence" that no-one can relate to, nevermind the logo....

But tell Joe Public that Westminster is to be abolished, the police could be replaced by an EU military, pension funds are going to be robbed, his children are being sterilized and his water flouridized to dumb him down and he will at least want to know how and why and who is doing it to him (unless he really is a total moron)

If UKIP want to win they will have to refocus their agenda into hard hitting "tell it as it is" politically incorrect mode.

Not only will people be able to relate to real issues that affect them but the uniqueness of the party and the ability to identify with the common man will be invaluable, and the media will get involved in hit-fest frenzy that can only ultimately backfire on them when the truth get's out (as it will)

So educate the electorate and get the electorate to understand what is at stake...... In life and death terms preferably.

Only then by fear of not voting UKIP will UKIP ever possibly win.

If UKIP attempt to flimsily "brand" themselves and do not put the work in on the ground to educate the public and spread the truth far and wide, then how can the public ever identify with them ?

Or is that the plan ?

I'm not trying to say "you've no chance UKIP" for the sake of it because I want them to suceed, but you have to ask yourself why (as David Noakes has pointed out) those members of UKIP who have wanted to inspire real change in Britain have been shelved to make way for the more "politically acceptable" individuals....

Now before you start to slag off DN, I have noticed that there are several UKIPers on here that are not willing to deal with the fundamental and critical political issues at stake, way way before I even learnt of the political wraglings in the UKIP leadership.

Unless UKIP come out and state that the other political parties are intent on destroying the UK, give a 1000 reasons why and lay the blame firmly at the feet of the globalists, the major political parties, and expose the sham for what it really is, then you might as well vote New Labour for all the good that it will do......

Unless you think along the lines of "Ron Paul revolution" and try to go even further it's no more than another new character in the puppet show.

And please don't give me the "people don't want to hear it" line - they will if you get them educated and they realize what is really possible if they get involved.

Or is that not part of the plan for "appearing professional" but expecting to lose ?

By the way if NF doesn't go balls out asap, kick him into touch and get a real leader with some fight in him in tout de suite.....

There you go - how to inspire a political revolution and save Britain.....

And what about replacing the £ sign in the logo with a searchlight or a hammer ?

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