Britannist

Thank you for your agreement on this Ranter.

I just thought I would mention that this Labour Government has reduced the number of services available at Post Offices as well as it having supported EU policy to push up postal charges (i.e. charging based on size of envelope as well as by its weight).

The EU and Labour have both caused visits to Post Offices to decline by cutting services in them and raising charges - deliberately.

The Bear

It is rightly said that it is better to light a candle than sit in the dark and whinge.

Yes, I do wish the death penalty would be returned for certain crimes and I am aware that the EU as a nation of federated states which it is, opposes it but that doesn’t mean that I would want Britain to sit outside of the EU, much better to fully partake of the whole show and work for change and that is precisely what I believe would be the very best strategy for the UKIP to now be adopting.

There is no doubt that the DATA that you provide is correct, at least as far as it goes, but data is not the same as information.

Information results from the analysis of data, and the information in the case of the Postal Services is that the root cause of the reduction in the number of rural post offices comes down to a policy of stripping them of the services they provided and then facing the EU rules regarding state subsidy of lame duck businesses.

I DO want a single United States of Europe! It’s our best option in the face of our position in the world and the dreadful state of our economy! AS for a pan European postal service, maybe along the same lines as US mail, and why not? Supplemented by private business to carry bulky or heavy parcels it would make perfect sense.

And that is precisely because Britain is dragging its heels in the European forums and being held back by people not realising just where Britain stands today in the world.

We are an offshore rock, hopelessly overpopulated with 65 plus million people on it, going deeper into debt hour by hour and rather than taking what in my opinion is the least worst option open to us, constantly whinging about how awful the EU is.

Guess what. Europe isn’t awful. The Italians don’t think so, the Poles don’t think so, the other new members don’t think so, and after a few months let alone a couple of years of the slump that is in the process of hitting the west most of the British people won’t think so either.

Right now we’re simply in denial about where we stand and if we can but move away from that, and it will be a painful thing for many people to accept, then suddenly this awful thing called the EU will seem a hell of a lot better than the alternatives remaining open to us.

I just hope the penny drops before the costs of becoming fully joined at the hip with the EU and the ECB become truly devastating, because they will.

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Britannist

My view is that I oppose the death penalty (which the EU does too) but I think that it is a matter for the UK to decide and not one for the EU.

Britannist

And could I ask what right you have to give the sovereignty of the British people to an EU Superstate which has legislative powers which no democratically elected UK Government can overturn as long as we are in the EU?

The USA postal service, by the way, serves a single nation called the USA. The EU is not nation and we do not need to dissolve our postal service into one set up by the EU.

Your europhile views in support of the EU Superstate are not showed by most British voters according to every opinion poll conducted on this matter over at least the last two decades.

But at least you have admitted you support the hated EU Superstate now under construction. There are some on this forum pretending to be anti-EU when they are the exact opposite.

Britannist

This is not about thinking the UK is a superpower.

Opposition to the EU is due to a wish to regain control of our country from an external organisation (the undemocratic, power-hungry EU) which no one in this country voted to join (the 1975 referendum was about staying - not joining - the EEC and it was about a common market where what we have now is a 'European Union' led by people who openly admit they want a pan-EU Superstate).

Britannist

I never suggested it was - it is the EU I am against: not europe.

Britannist

That's what they said about Japan at the end of World War 2.

She is now the second most powerful economy on the face of the planet.

And she has achieved that without putting herself under the control of the continent nearby.

Britannist

And the moon is made of cheese.

Hartlepool

Facts:

Present PO Subsidy = £4M PA.
Closures of POs = 2,500 POs.
Subsidy per PO = £1,600 PA.

Subsidy for 2,500 Post Offices = PEANUTS(EURO-PEANUTS)

Britannist

If we were not paying the EU billions in membership fees and custom levies the Government would have more money and would not need to borrow. It could reduce tax substantially.

We are paying £100, 000 a minute to the EU for nothing back except a massive trading deficit which we did not have with them before we joined the EU.

Billions given to the EU could go on public services in the UK.