In the event that.....

Hartlepool · 11-04-2008, 06:04 PM

In the event that scotland grabs what it can from the Union and goes independent,should we in England ask all scotchies here to return up north to their bonnie hames?

A yes or no will suffice,with an explanation but definately no lib dem type fence sitters whilst waiting for an "unsure" option.

bnp can take part once they have worked out between them just what is required to take part in this.

Alex McKee · 11-04-2008, 06:24 PM

Depending on how many generations you'd take this down, you'd probably be losing me to Scotland. I'm sure there are those who would not miss me.

Hartlepool · 11-04-2008, 06:34 PM

I did make the point of saying "ASK",I had no intention of indicating that my theoretical question was a demand.

Those who would stay in the "UK" would be deemed as pro the Union,I presume.

Westcountryman · 11-04-2008, 08:51 PM

No, if they've chosen to leave Scotland to reside in England so be it. There's no shortage of English folk in Scotland either.

Kevin Adamson · 12-04-2008, 06:53 AM

Yes a great idea.Maybe we could take this a bit further and "ask" everyone to return to their country of birth.

Alex McKee · 12-04-2008, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ranter

Yes a great idea.Maybe we could take this a bit further and "ask" everyone to return to their country of birth.

I hope that was sarcasm, not a serious suggestion.

Hartlepool · 12-04-2008, 01:03 PM

So,Scotland go independent and remain in the EU,with the rest of the UK eventually becoming independent of the EU?

Would EU Citizens entering the UK from Scotland need visas and/or visitor and work permits for the UK,or should they be/not allowed to enter the UK Borders freely at will?

Northumbrian · 12-04-2008, 06:56 PM

Except you can't have a UK without Scotland. The Act of Union is dissolved, so we return to the Kingdom of England.

Hartlepool · 12-04-2008, 07:44 PM

I don't think so N.

The United Kingdom as it is known consists of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which equates to England,NI,Scotland and Wales along with some of our Islands.

So,Scotland is only a small part of the UK(8.36%).

Northumbrian · 12-04-2008, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartlepool

I don't think so N.

The United Kingdom as it is known consists of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which equates to England,NI,Scotland and Wales along with some of our Islands.

So,Scotland is only a small part of the UK(8.36%).

And how do you think we got to this 'nation state'?

1707 - Act of Union between Kingdom of England and Kingdom of Scotland to form Kingdom of Great Britain

1801 - Act of Union between Kingdom of Great Britain and Kingdom of Ireland to form United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland

1922 - Amended to United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland following southern Irish independence.

Scottish independence is dissolution of the 1707 Act of Union. Anything after that is null and void. We're back to pre-1707.

11-04-2008, 06:04 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,660 Party: Free England Party	In the event that..... In the event that scotland grabs what it can from the Union and goes independent,should we in England ask all scotchies here to return up north to their bonnie hames? A yes or no will suffice,with an explanation but definately no lib dem type fence sitters whilst waiting for an "unsure" option. bnp can take part once they have worked out between them just what is required to take part in this.

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Alex McKee Moderator Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gloucester Posts: 6,665	Depending on how many generations you'd take this down, you'd probably be losing me to Scotland. I'm sure there are those who would not miss me. __________________ Anything I post on this web forum is my personal opinion only. Users on Ignore list: None.

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Westcountryman Uber Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: The Westcountry. Posts: 5,922 Party: None	No, if they've chosen to leave Scotland to reside in England so be it. There's no shortage of English folk in Scotland either. __________________ Manus haec inimica tyrannis ense petit placidam sub libertate quietam - "This hand of mine, which is hostile to tyrants, seeks by the sword quiet peace under liberty."

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11-04-2008, 06:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,660 Party: Free England Party	I did make the point of saying "ASK",I had no intention of indicating that my theoretical question was a demand. Those who would stay in the "UK" would be deemed as pro the Union,I presume.

12-04-2008, 06:53 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kevin Adamson Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Surrey Posts: 864 Party: UKIP	Yes a great idea.Maybe we could take this a bit further and "ask" everyone to return to their country of birth.

12-04-2008, 01:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,660 Party: Free England Party	So,Scotland go independent and remain in the EU,with the rest of the UK eventually becoming independent of the EU? Would EU Citizens entering the UK from Scotland need visas and/or visitor and work permits for the UK,or should they be/not allowed to enter the UK Borders freely at will?

12-04-2008, 06:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
Northumbrian Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Newcastle upon Tyne, England Posts: 1,178 Party: Free England Party	Except you can't have a UK without Scotland. The Act of Union is dissolved, so we return to the Kingdom of England.

12-04-2008, 07:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,660 Party: Free England Party	I don't think so N. The United Kingdom as it is known consists of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland which equates to England,NI,Scotland and Wales along with some of our Islands. So,Scotland is only a small part of the UK(8.36%).