Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth

By the way Cleopatra, I'm sorry if I sounded like I was referring to you - I wasn't attacking you personally by saying "go to bed moron", in fact I've only just read your other posts, and I'm sorry to hear about your previous difficulty with it.

But in reality it was your problem as such, not the internet's.

Anyway honestly no offence intended towards you at all so hope you haven't taken any - just trying to make my point.

I'm just tired of articles like these, and how easily people tend to believe the propaganda of them.

Originally Posted by Frith

Cleo, you probably have a lively mind. That is why you want to make contact with various aspects of the world often. You may be like me, wishing you could find a place where people were pleasant and things didn't always degenerate into insults and rudeness. I know what it's like to keep trying, to check e-mail often and to surf around looking for the gateway that will reveal the net's potential. Just because it doesn't seem to be there, or because many people on the net, and in life, are rather sh*tty doesn't mean you should give up searching.

Seek and ye shall find. There's just a lot of cr*p to wade through and that can make you lose enthusiasm.

You drink tea, I eat chocolate.

Originally Posted by Frith

Cleo, you probably have a lively mind.

Originally Posted by Cleopatra

I'll say Frith, I don't stop thinking, I am always in a dream world.

Originally Posted by Cleopatra

No offence taken whatsoever YCHTT.

I do believe that the internet can be addictive though, very addictive and I have never have a myspace account, bebo, facebook or any other networking site. I don't view porn on the net, don't have a blog, go to dating sites or even use msn. All I used was my google mail and yahoo mail account and posted on a couple of forums, I noticed it was the debating forums that took up too much of my life.

Now though, with the University subjects I am doing I simply have to use the net more than I would like. I have links upon links to read regarding education and history, I now have a separate e-mail A/C for uni which I have to check daily, I have a studyzone site which has to be checked daily and of course the computer has to be used to type up essays.

Anyway, I know this is going slightly off topic but this problem is something I can include in an essay regarding 21st century education. As far as I can see, the debate against home schooling on the net is that children may not do it, or may get somebody else to do it. I am going to include the health hazards of addiction to the net.

Do you see what I mean, I made a cup of tea at 08:55 this morning, I am still drinking it (suprisingly it is still warm) and it is now 09:21.

Originally Posted by youcanhandlethetruth

Thanks Cleopatra,

I do believe that the internet can be addictive too, and there is a lot of information out there available to wade through.
But wouldn't you prefer to have that information available than to have it taken away from you because someone claims you can't use it responsibly ?
I think you understand my point.

Glad you haven't taken it personally because that was not my point or intention at all.

Despite Frith's attempts to label me as "sh*tty" and label the information I posted as cr*p(without posting any information of her own regarding the subject) I am glad to see you can follow the common sense line of reasoning.

It's re-assuring to know we haven't all been brainwashed by the evil-doers that would want you to believe otherwise.

Be very careful with trusting or believing Frith - she is attempting to appear as a wonderful culture loving individual but despite her talking up the internet on this post elsewhere she is alluding to the internet to be banned, apparently because I don't agree with her !

Hi!

Frith:

"The net is, in my view, a terrific way to reach a large number of people[not "everyone"] through good[notice not "all"] teachers because so many can tune in at once and this can spread standards of excellence across a broad spectrum"

"I used to think the internet was a great invention and a useful tool for communication. I am beginning to think it may be more of a curse, if not an actual threat."

So much for the internet - "motivates self-expression and independent thinking" !

Please do elaborate Frith ! (without metaphors ? )

And apparently a primary school child should be able to understand her posts, but she cannot understand that my point of view on this thread was not a personal attack, but a genuine concern about "net neutrality"

A bit odd ?!

Yes, she's all for culture but wants liberty to be supressed and so called "conspiracy theorists" to be eliminated too, because she feels somehow "threatened" by freedom of speech and the "first victims will be those who love truth"(see below link)

Trying to label anyone who she places into the bracket of "conspiracy theorist" as dangerous or a "threat", she is no more than a very sad low level propaganda merchant and confidence trickster, riding on the back of fake self-styled beauty.

Her only defence is to claim I am going around this site calling people nutjobs, when she is the first to impose unsubstantiated labels onto "truth seekers" into the fray, not to mention disgusting and thinly disguised pro-violent rhetoric.

Poor innocent lamb - what have we done ?

You would almost think everything she really stands for is straight out the New Labour handbook of "freedom".

If you read the subtle thorns in her posts, you may reach the conclusion she wants nothing more than to pretend to be your friend simply to stop your ability to think for yourself, and for you to despise people like me who truly have yours and everyones best interests at heart.
(I'm not sure about Frith though )

Just a friendly word of warning because those of us who are pro-liberty actually do get off our backsides and condemn those trying to take liberty away from us.
(as opposed to those who spout dreary nothingness about loss of culture that they never actually try to fight or speak out against)

Trust me, Frith stands for blinding metaphors and supposed reactionary mistrust of liberty, but nothing about real truth, personal choice or freedom.

If you have a "lively mind" then never think it is a danger to yourself, as others may secretly have you believe.