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Old 13-03-2008, 11:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Do you think.....,Yes or No?

Do you think the country should be selling our assets,Oil,Gas to other EU Countries at this time when the Governments general call is for conservation and the Peak Oil dilemas?

Take a look at this,read the"OIL" paragraphs on the Netherlands getting 26% of our oil but just selling it on in the Market each day,then,scroll to the bottom and see a bunch of statistics that show how much we are producing in the Energy field and how much we are propping up the EU every day.

Why do we push global warming, yet, sell assets that are said to damage it?

I would think we should be saving,not selling,especially to the Dutch so they can make a profit every day.

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We have to because New Labour has bankrupted the country.

It really is that simple.

We're in trouble thanks to Brown and his Economic Mirage.
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We have to because New Labour has bankrupted the country.

It really is that simple.

We're in trouble thanks to Brown and his Economic Mirage.
Mirage would imply that they thought they were doing the right thing. The reality is that this Marxist government has deliberately set out to destroy our economy, way of life, armed forces, police force, industry, farming and even managed to destroy all trust in the political system.
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Exactamundo Hunter,well put too.
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Mirage would imply that they thought they were doing the right thing. The reality is that this Marxist government has deliberately set out to destroy our economy, way of life, armed forces, police force, industry, farming and even managed to destroy all trust in the political system.
I don’t believe for one moment that New Labour are Marxist nor that they set out to destroy the economy.

I do believe they did set out to emasculate the Old Bill, massively “reform” our way of life, hit farming (probably out of jealousy based on myth rather than knowledge) and of course mistaking multi-ethnicity for multi-culture go down a road that is leading to disaster.

Blair was undoubtedly the master architect in all this. Reading comments made about him by his ex schoolteachers he was an insufferable little prig then and he has not changed one iota since.

Then there is Brown. The item he wrote when at University on how to scrounge with no regard for the people he was scrounging off or the implications of his scrounging describes exactly the same principles he has employed while Chancellor and now as PM.

In my opinion the real issues with this dreadful government involve incompetence, arrogance, mismanagement, misappropriation of funds (from the tax payers) and a program that is counter to good government of Britain.
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I don’t believe for one moment that New Labour are Marxist nor that they set out to destroy the economy..
Why not? New Labour are socialists so they may have thought they'd take everything away from the people so we have nothing, they keep us under their control and then all state assets are put under the control of the friends of Labour's leadership, Putin style.

That is my theory anyway :-))
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We have to because New Labour has bankrupted the country.

It really is that simple.

We're in trouble thanks to Brown and his Economic Mirage.
You think Gordon Brown is the reason but he's only a puppet, like all the politicians of the major political parties.

The trick they play on us is to make us think it's individual politicians - Blair, Brown, Bush etc, whoever that make the decisions. You really think that's true ? Ever heard of David Rockefeller, Bilderberg, the New world order ?

I urge you to look into it - you'll see a very different picture I'm sure and unfortunetely it's not conspiracy theory - I wish it was.....

They're batting for the same team Bear - the globalist elite who own 80% of the world's wealth - why else is Brown selling us out to the EU ? Why don't any of the political parties want us out of the EU ?

I know Brown is ultimately responsible, but it really isn't as simple as you make out - please look into it if you don't believe me....
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Hey YCHTT .....ever heard of Bretton Woods?

Now there's an interesting thing to bone up on and ask if it's now run its course.

Then ask if a new equivalent meeting should take place, and more importantly who should attend, what the “strings and levers” are in place today, who holds them, and what the outcome is likely to be given those who now hold the cards.

Maybe the much vaunted New World Order is rapidly being replaced "on the ground" by the Post-New World Order.
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I hadn't actually so I looked it up at brettonwoods.org

Mission Statement:
The Bretton Woods Committee seeks to increase understanding of the World Bank, IMF, WTO and the regional development banks and their efforts to spur economic growth, alleviate poverty and improve financial stability."

I'd guess it's just one branch of the New World order and a wolf in sheeps clothing.

I don't understand what you're getting at - what does it mean to you ?
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It means to me that the basis of the Western banking system for the past 60+ years has been founded on the industrial might of the US as the prime mover and investor.

Now that the US (and the UK) are in decline, and as China and India become the prime movers, plus also the terrible level of debt that the US and Britain has taken on, all that combined with dreadful (and daily worsening) balance of trade imbalance means that the institutions that emerged from the B/W conference are now themselves outdated and invalid, and worse yet, unfunded.

That means that the whole basis on which our currencies are set up is now invalid. The credit crunch isn’t a crunch, it’s that the transfer of debt between nations that has been behind all of the world trade for the past 30 + years has finally hit the buffers.

Where once balance of trade was reasonably just that, a balance of trade, since the early 70’s when the US was bankrupt and only bailed out by the adoption of the US dollar as THE energy currency, for the last 30 years things have slewed from a balance to a one sided transfer.

There will have to be a global shake up with an equivalent meeting driven by the new power houses to establish a go forward plan to replace that which the B/W conference set up.

My concern is if this will result in the US throwing a hissy-fit and declaring war on the debt holders to “maintain its currency” and / or to “secure” vital supplies.

Iraq may or may not have been all about oil, the next “adventure” that the US goes into certainly WILL be.

BTW – this is one of the few times that I think that Wikipedia is a better source than most to get the low-down on Bretton Woods.

Bretton Woods system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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