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Old 15-04-2008, 11:15 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Quite, just remember in a free market there are always more jobs than people.
If that were true then it would mean labour were more powerful than capital, it would in fact mean that a return on capital were very hard and I doubt this would happenn in a lockean kind of free market.
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There are many jobs that need doing. Some of them are simply financially unviable at this time. With some labour done in speculation they might yield results.
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And all the while we hand out money, money borrowed on the international money markets, to the millions who COULD be doing useful work in return and who instead spend their hand outs further worsening out trade balance.

But there’s worse.

Millions of immigrants have swarmed into Britain doing the jobs that the lazy Brits won’t do and we end up paying them with more borrowed money much of which then gets sent “home”.

There is an answer, and it doesn’t rely on leaving the EU to fix it.
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To sort out the welfare state will require a Prime Minister with the single minded determination of Thatcher.

Taking on the unions will have been a piece of cake however compared to depriving the millions of unemployed their free money. Not having to work for a living is now a lifestyle choice and the idea that nobody is able to claim the dole without looking for work (job seekers allowance) is just wrong.

Before the public has the stomach to vote for a politician who will sort out this mess we will need to go so far down the road that the backlash will be nasty.
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To sort out the welfare state will require a Prime Minister with the single minded determination of Thatcher.

Taking on the unions will have been a piece of cake however compared to depriving the millions of unemployed their free money. Not having to work for a living is now a lifestyle choice and the idea that nobody is able to claim the dole without looking for work (job seekers allowance) is just wrong.

Before the public has the stomach to vote for a politician who will sort out this mess we will need to go so far down the road that the backlash will be nasty.
I would be quite simple get elected with measures that appeal to the Old Labour types like ending immigration and mass nationalism.
Then end all new benefits for those who have not yet recieved them but soon might.
Thus every current voter will be happy.
The new voters will accept their lot in life.
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And all the while we hand out money, money borrowed on the international money markets, to the millions who COULD be doing useful work in return and who instead spend their hand outs further worsening out trade balance.

But there’s worse.

Millions of immigrants have swarmed into Britain doing the jobs that the lazy Brits won’t do and we end up paying them with more borrowed money much of which then gets sent “home”.

There is an answer, and it doesn’t rely on leaving the EU to fix it.
Since the White British have by far the highest employment rate it is not they who are lazy.
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Since the White British have by far the highest employment rate it is not they who are lazy.
Did you miss this segment from what I wrote?

"..doing the jobs that the lazy Brits won’t do.."

Unlike some others around here I am not hindered by vile racism.
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Tanny, your young so eventually go by way of self-employment.

So many manufacturers want distributors. They will private label
their products.

One item I distribute is crystal deodorant stones...really works. Deodorants are linked to ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE and BREAST CANCER because of the
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I also distribute organic Blue Agave which is a natural nectar made from of the Blue Agave plant in Mexico. Same plant tequilla is made from. I sell to many folks but diabetics buy it as it's safer than sugar substitutes.

I also make soy candles, lemon and vanilla extract, natural soaps, hand
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fresh milk, butchered chickens/rabbits/turkeys, organic herbs, and now the Serbs want sheep and I found a sheep without wool which is more tasty since the lanolin gives off a mutton taste I don't like. I raised one, slaughtered it, bar-b-qued it and the Serbs went crazy. So, now I will have another future product market.

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To sort out the welfare state will require a Prime Minister with the single minded determination of Thatcher.

Taking on the unions will have been a piece of cake however compared to depriving the millions of unemployed their free money. Not having to work for a living is now a lifestyle choice and the idea that nobody is able to claim the dole without looking for work (job seekers allowance) is just wrong.

Before the public has the stomach to vote for a politician who will sort out this mess we will need to go so far down the road that the backlash will be nasty.

I absolutely agree.

But with the global slump, and I do believe that is a real possibility, or a slump affecting only Britain, a near certainty, the fall out is going to be horrible with soaring unemployment and all the horrors that will come with it.

Especially now that we have such a high percentage of the population with zero loyalty to Britain, or in close to two million cases, not even Europe.

I wonder how many people have caught on that the “issuing of $50 billion bonds in exchange for mortgage risk” could well be a stealth nationalisation of a whole lot of the British private housing stock as people default on their mortgages.

The government would then foreclose but let the people stay where they are as tenants of what was once their homes, but will now be council houses in all but name.
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Did you miss this segment from what I wrote?

"..doing the jobs that the lazy Brits won’t do.."

Unlike some others around here I am not hindered by vile racism.
"..doing the jobs that the lazy Brits won’t do.."


That is a racist statement.
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