mkpdavies

I've said it before, I'll say it again. You will never, ever get agreement on this issue.

In that instance, local democracy has to be brought in.

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For_England

You were the one previously begging the question by saying that only women ought to have a say (thereby assuming that the baby is not a baby).

I see the dimmer switch is still down. How about 'I take it you believe a baby is just a bunch of cells and not a baby from the moment of conception'?

Oh but women should be allowed to whore around with no consequences, and blame - wait for it - 'failed contraceptives' for the consequences? Yes, and who are we going to blame failed civilisation on? or family breakdown? crime? drug abuse? illiterate and unloved children? suicidal decline in birth rate? not on whores who would rather act like men than be role model mothers and rearers of children, presumably? Oh but the last one can be solved by mass immigration, so while you whore around, the nice veiled women can do your job for you, and bring up nice Islamicists to replace us with. And wait to see what they do with you and other abortion promoters when they have the chance! You can't fight nature and win.

Cleopatra

So in your opinion, sex before marriage for a "woman" means she is a whore?

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For_England

Take a read of the scientific and biological basis of the 'Madonna/Whore' dichotomy in Robert Wright's The Moral Animal, and rip away the false fantasies fed to you in the educational system courtesy of Freud and the Frankfurt School.

Cleopatra

I'm not sure about you but the rest of us are living in the 21st century. You (as a man) do not have to make this "extremely difficult" decision. You (as a man) do not have to suffer the consequences of an unwanted pregnancy. I really feel the need to ask you if you have children?

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For_England

Yes I do. The '21 century' you appeal to will not last much longer before it either hurls itself into it's own utter destruction, or turns itself out of its imposed cul-de-sac and regenerates itself based upon the traditional values of the past.

Britannist

I take it you possibly think that only females can comment on the protection of and the rights of male and female defenceless unborn babies?

Britannist

Quality posting from For England (quoted above) .

Britannist

It never ceases to amaze me at how many abortions in the UK are carried out on females in their twenties "for career reasons" - females who had the chance (unlike some previous generations) of using contraceptives.

The UK anti-abortion (i.e. pro-life) movement has as many female members as male members. Many of the leading figures in the British pro-life movement are female. All members of the pro-life movement in the UK and elsewhere seek to protect and defend the rights of defenceless unborn children a majority of who - are, of course, female.

In other words, male members of the anti-abortion movement around the world are trying to ensure that unborn females are protected and born.

I would also add one other point: opinion polls show that a majority of women in the UK want the abortion upper time limit cut.

tito

For_England, if a man turned up at your door unannounced and was hungry; should it be legal to feed him and take him inside?

Once you have taken him inside, should you be free to tell him where to leave?

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