mkpdavies

I have done it about 10 times already, but just for you I'll do it again.

Fascist.

Someone who imposes their will on others, without their permission.

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Akria

Parents are fascists, then?

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If you prick us, do we not bleed?
If you tickle us, do we not laugh?
If you poison us, do we not die?

Cleopatra

Frith,

Your intelligence intimidates some of these 'mere men'. I do hope that you are not serious about leaving.

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mkpdavies

Don't worry, she's like me. We both storm off from time to time, but come back in the end.

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Cleopatra wrote:-
Hear hear !!

youcanhandlethetruth

Exactly WHO are these people that "detest women", "believe you can have no government" and are "returning to the dark ages" ?

Forgive me Aardvark, but if certain un-named parties are to be accused of various accusations, then the person making the
accusations should state clearly what and who is causing the supposed offence.(haven't other moderators stated this ?)

When people are at least specific and make up stories about me, at least I can defend myself by knowing what they are
referring to, and decide to defend myself if I choose to.

What is worse is the insinuation that is being put alongside "aggressive" words and other unrealted historical events in an
attempt to slur the name of the so called "truth" movement that no-one here to my knowledge has admitted to being part of.
Many people on this forum are searching for truth but it does not mean they are part of any group or organization.

With Frith associating the fact that (s)he has been a victim, whilst pointing to these aggresive statements, Frith is
insinuating that "we" are the one's guilty of the aggression to start off with !
Nothing could be further from the truth.

Aardvark, you talk about "walk away from reasoned argument" but since when was Frith's post "reasoned" argument to begin with ?

Sure it "sounds" reasonable but is (s)he being specific in his/her accusations and backing it up with evidence, or is (s)he painting a torrid tale of unreasonable victimisation without supporting evidence ?

You say "form of sympathy for the theories supporting the concept of MMGW." but I did not mention MMGW once in my reply, so
forgive me, but I don't believe that is reasoned argument at all.

If you can point out to me what statements of Frith's post you think are reasonable, then we can discuss them reasonably.

This ridiculous fairy tale is no more than subtle mind bending - Frith is claiming she is the victim, when actually there are
numerous references to aggression in his/her post. The intention is to put doubt in the mind's of others as to the true
intentions of the people that it tries to discredit, and I'm afraid to say, you have just proved my entire point.

Personally I'm disgusted by this type of behaviour(Frith I mean) and slightly disappointed you seem to have been fooled by
this technique.
Not that I blame you however - it's not very suprising as people only tend to read the last statement of any post and draw
their conclusions on that basis.

The whole point of posting it as a new thread was not to personally attack someone(as others would have you believe) but to
point out that people are indirectly trying to abuse other people's credibility on purpose, for their own gain.

I believe I understand how these people's tactics work to push their own agendas, and they work tirelessly to try to win
favour of unsuspecting people like yourself Aardvark.

In my opinion, most people would reason it is a complete load of bull, and I believe they would be right.

As for Besoker,Akria and Clippo - the only statements they make are those which intentionally intend to discredit people and
the well meaning conclusions that they draw from logical reasoning.

They constantly dismiss and disprove each and every subject thread, whilst they acting like they are the saviours and
innocent victims, but more importantly they almost never seem to put forward a positive argument for anything constructive or
useful at all.

A good example of this is the supposed "scientific method" that they state, which is only used to disprove why other
people/anybody elses theory is wrong, but never proves why other people/anything else is right.
As other people are fully aware, this is the theme that is constantly in all their posts.

So in this way THEY are the people who are guilty of causing friction on this forum by their constant intention to antagonize
people and reasonable debate.

Of course, they will always tell you that you are wrong (unless they are talking to each other), but that is the sad tactic
of a bunch of half wits who are no more capable of forming a scientific argument, than I am at walking on eggshells.

I am sorry if I have stooped to their level, but that is my true belief.
If you think I am wrong about my beleif or my right to state my belief, then that is up to you.

I honestly don't mean any offence to you at all Aardvark, but I suggest you read some of their posts and see if you can pick
up on the common theme most other people on this forum have already identified.

Maybe then you can see for yourself where(I believe), the ideas which are similar in nature to where the real rise of
"political correctness" in this country is stemming from.

John Connor

A fascist is the exact opposite of a libertarian.

To quote old Benito: "All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state."

So there you go, a libertarian believes in the absolute minimum state while a fascist believes in the maximum.

Trouble is, the scientific research you mention requires fascism to cure the ills it suggests. It's that simple.

The constant requirement for discussion is typical of the leftist movement. Regardless of the other side's opinion, the tactic is to discuss and discuss and discuss until such a time as the opposition either gives up or is brainwashed into believing the leftist's side. And then all of a sudden the constant calls for discussion seem to dry up.

It's like Switzerland and the EU:
"Do you want to join the EU?"
"No."
<six months>
"Do you want to join the EU?"
"No."
<six months>
"Do you want to join the EU?"
...etc... ...etc... ...etc...

Anybody want to bet that once Switzerland is in the EU there won't be the same discussion-friendly people saying:

"Let's discuss membership of the EU. Do you want to leave the EU?"

There's no requirement for debate here. All the debating has already been done. This forum is more like a meeting place where persons of similar views (anti-EU, anti-fascist, anti-leftie) share information.

They might not be 100% fascist themselves, but they're being "useful idiot" minions for those who are.

Again, no need for debate. If you all go veggie there'll be plenty of space for biofuels and food. And even some left over for some fresh carbon sink.

Just because you don't fancy the thought of going veggie doesn't mean it's not the correct answer. Of course, rather than go veggie and becoming part of the solution themselves, most of those touting MMGW prefer that someone else be the solution (i.e. by not driving). A typical leftist MO - do as I say, not as I do.

I challenge all MMGW fanatics to go veggie for a minimum of one year. No meat, no fish, no meat derivatives. Then they can come talk to me about MMGW.

No. If we all fit solar cells, what remaining energy costs we have will rocket skywards - leaving us no better off. Taxation abhors a vacuum.

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If you're taking notice of the environmental rants of a man who claims to have invented the Internet, exactly how low is your IQ?
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John Connor

Exactly. For those not in the know, this tactic of passive aggressiveness is straight out of the leftie playbook. You wouldn't believe the amount of times I've seen it used in my decades of arguing with lefties.

Likewise with the accusations of misogyny. Straight out of the manual, that one.

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By definition, 49.9999% of the population are of below average intelligence. Hence, a NuLabour government. Three times.

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mkpdavies

Spending money on something that will NEVER recover the initial cost, is stupidity in the extreme. That wasted money could be used on something much more beneficial to the person who is spending it and the world at large.

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tito

More to the point, are children men? They are incapable of making rational choices, the process of learning and maturity will make them men eventually (Except in the unfortunate case of the retarded)

Furthermore, as soon as a child is old enough to express his opinion he is free to leave (rather, should be)

Most of them have nowhere to go though. You stay with your parents and put up with their rules in return for living in their home, eating their food, spending their money.

It is a relationship that becomes more and more mutual as the child matures.

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