mkpdavies

Local areas would need to identify who was commiting the crime and punish them suitably.

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Those that do pay for their rubbish to be picked up by private companies are going to be charged a lot more than they are charged now

I would say the opposite. Just because you don't have the government forcing you to use it, doesn't mean a lot of people wouldn't choose to get together or even trust their local government to make arrangements. People would be much more aware of their responsibilites and the consequences for harming others.

There would be less political skulldagary with contracts and with zero tax, many more companies able to set up and compete.

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It's easy. If they don't want their rubbish taking away, they don't pay to have it taken away and it must remain on their property until they dispose of it via legal means (i.e. at the tip).

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Oops, missed that bit.

I know a bloke in Texas who has his rubbish taken away by a private company. $20 a year, no limit, collections three times per week.

Yes, you read that correctly. $20 a year.

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No, what's immoral is denying education and healthcare to those who can not afford it. Can't afford to send your kids to school? That's ok then, no education for them. Got cancer, but can't afford the treatment? Have a nice death.

A libertarian would let an orphan starve and die unless someone agreed to take them in. It's disgusting in my opinion.

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********, there's the strong possibility that all of them would be massively underfunded, unless you could raise equivalent amounts of money from the population voluntarily.

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Which is nearly impossible. Hey, get the underfunded Police to do it.

Which raises an interesting question, are we going to go back to a system where those who did not pay for fire cover get to watch their houses burn etc?

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A libertarian would let an orphan starve and die unless someone agreed to take them in. It's disgusting in my opinion.

How do you know what a Libertarian would do? Don't be such a *******. Just because a Libertarian doesn't believe in stealing, doesn't mean he/she would watch another person suffer through no fault of their own. How did you become so hateful towards other people?

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********, there's the strong possibility that all of them would be massively underfunded, unless you could raise equivalent amounts of money from the population voluntarily.

You're the one talking ******** pal. If you think people can't work together to acheive things without government, then you are sadly deluded. That fact this delusion has led you to thinking stealing and fascism is the right course of action is quite disgusting really.

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Depends if they deserve to not be able to afford it. In a free society, where people had to be responisble, there would be less people like that to start with.

The ones that truly deserve help, would probably be happy to find their richer, more giving neigbours would donate more to charity and help their deserving neighbours much more readily.

What they wouldn't do is steal from someone else to help them, as you advocate.

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And if they don't leave it on their property which will be more likely, what do you suggest then?

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Interesting, he must be one very lucky Texan:

City of Burnet Texas | City Deparments: Utilites: Garbage Rates



Residential Refuse Collection Rates

Contractor will provide curbside collection service of residential refuse and waste to each Residential Unit as follows:

STANDARD RESIDENTIAL RATES: Rates are quoted at a per month rate.

One time per week - One 90-gallon cart
Base Rate $ 11.90
Billing Charge 2.00
Total Rate $ 13.90

One time per week - Two 90-gallon carts
Base Rate 14.60
Billing Charge 2.00
Total Rate $ 16.60

SENIOR CITIZEN RATES: (Over age 65) Rates are quoted at a per month rate.

One time per week - One 90-gallon cart
Base Rate $ 10.29
Billing Charge 2.00
Total Rate $ 12.29

One time per week - Two 90-gallon carts
Base Rate 12.99
Billing Charge 2.00
Total Rate 14.99

Additional carts will be made available for an additional monthly charge of $2.50 per cart added to the Base Rate, subject to the Contractor Service Cost Adjustment in accordance with Sec. 90-66 of Ordinance 2004-19.

65-GALLON CART: (Upon special request for customers physically unable to use the 90-gallon carts). Rates are quoted at a per month rate.

One time per week - One 65-gallon cart
Base Rate $ 10.29
Billing Charge 2.00
Total Rate $ 12.29

One time per week - Two 65-gallon carts
Base Rate 12.99
Billing Charge 2.00
Total Rate 14.99

Additional carts will be made available for an additional monthly charge of $2.50 per cart added to the Base Rate, subject to the Contractor Service Cost Adjustment in accordance with Sec. 90-66 of this ordinance.

Such service shall be provided by the use of 90-gallon cart containers supplied by the Contractor. The prices includes the curbside collection of up to five (5) additional containers, bags and bundles of residential refuse on each pickup/service day. Where multiple Residential Units occupy a single location, the Customer will be billed for each Residential Unit. Contractor will provide house side collections at no extra cost to citizens that are handicapped or disabled. Determination for citizens requesting this service shall be made between Contractor and the City.



If I was from the City of Burnet in Texas I would be hopping mad that your Texan friend paid only $20 per year. I find it very difficult to believe if I'm honest.

If we are talking Britain then we could pretty much treble that amount quoted as $13.90 per month.

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