Roland

In all honesty as far as i'm concerned the biggest piece of evidence with out going into specifics is the way that their is no decent investigation into 9/11 and any attempts at having one have been quite deliberately stopped.

Been trying to leave a photo on here but keeps disappearing so i've left a link instead. It shows steel framed buildings collapsed in an earth quake. When you look at the buildings they collapse as one hole unit and fall over they do not end up in tiny little pieces in a neat little pile.

http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/anal...taiwan_six.jpg

youcanhandlethetruth

The link was broken so here it is again:

9-11 Research: Other Building Collapses

"Defenders of the official explanation that the jetliner crashes and fires induced the total destruction of the Twin Towers and Building 7 have been unable to cite even a single example of the total collapse of a skyscraper from any cause other than controlled demolition. Consequently they have cited collapse incidents that do not even remotely resemble the cases of the World Trade Center skyscrapers."

Mikeuk

I'm still not clear on the supposed reason for Bush and the US government murdering all these people, including some of their own agents.

Was it really just so Bush could wage war and string up Saddam? Was Silverstein bought in purely on the promise of a huge insurance payout? In the event he seems to have had trouble getting the compensation to which he thought he was entitled.

What was in it for the Fire Dept, and how did the hijackers escape from the exploding planes?

Answers please...and not some reference back to crackpot videos which I do not have time to watch.

youcanhandlethetruth

"Mr. McQuillan has stated that by “it,” Mr. Silverstein meant the contingent of firefighters remaining in the building."

Yeah right ! So much for common sense.

"The fuel from these tanks could have contributed to the intense heat that apparently weakened the supporting columns in WTC 7."

Look at the photograph of WTC7 and compare it to the intense Madrid fire(where the building amazingly stood up)

This is wtc7, another building near the twin towers, it had two isolated fires which can be see here.

Show me one photograph that shows intense fires.

Are you saying there were raging fires in WTC7 or not ? Yes or no ?

You ask "Are you seriously suggesting that the courageous firefighters of New York City were conspirators in a vile plot to murder thousands of innocent people ?"

I never even remotely suggested that - you made that hypothesis up from god knows where.

Actually, the firefighters are being ignored by the people that you unreservedly trust so much.

9/11 Commission Ignored Firefighter's Account of Explosions Inside WTC

Look at the video of the firefighter(is he a crackpot?) talking about about the north tower:

"We're standing there in the lobby....all of a sudden we hear (explosion noise) and the elevators exploded like something out of a Bruce Willis Die Hard movie," said Schroeder.

"People just come running out of the elevators on fire....I was like what is going on here, something's up here - I mean the plane's up there now there's fire down here?"

Here's some more evidence:

NY Fireman Lou Cacchioli Says 9/11 Comission Twisted His Words
Firefighters Rip Giuliani, Call Him 'Urban Legend'
Firemen douse Rudy’s image as 9/11 hero - Times Online

So, don't go suggesting I'm saying the "firefighters" were in on it.
It's a cheap trick to try to discredit me, and it has backfired on you.

Do you believe the fireman's testimony Mike ?
When it doesn't suit you, you don't.

Are you a government op or you just plain stupid or brainwashed ?
You say you haven't get time to watch "crackpot" vidoes, but you've got time to post on this forum haven't you ? So why not make better use of your time and actually look at the evidence for a change ?

So I'm not going round in circles with you anymore Mike.

Believe the lies of the government, FEMA and the rest of the scum that you so obviously support.
If you are supporting them now, remember that it doesn't mean that they won't try to hurt you later. In fact any govt minnion who supports them will probably get dealt with by them more severely as a way to keep them silent later.

youcanhandlethetruth

This goes a lot deeper than just Bush, who is essentially a figurehead puppet.

"Was Silverstein bought in purely on the promise of a huge insurance payout?"

I don't know but it looks suspicious though doesn't it ?

"What was in it for the Fire Dept, and how did the hijackers escape from the exploding planes?"

Nothing was in it for the firefighters(see previous post) so they obviously weren't in on it.

"how did the hijackers escape from the exploding planes?"

How do we know there were any hijackers on the planes at all ?
Isn't it incredible that the passports of these hijackers amazingly surfaced from the debris shortly after the event, whilst the supposed hijackers turned up alive and well after (in the BBC report) ?

And how do you explain those mysterious cell phone conversations when a cell phone's do not work above 4000 feet ? Let alone 50000+ feet or more.

There are so many more unanswered questions, it beggars belief.

I suggest you read the official government PNAC(Project for the New American Century) documents including the report entitled "Building America's Defences" (Sept 2000) where it says:

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Re...asDefenses.pdf

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."

Interesting, just by randomly searching on "terror" I also found:

"And advanced forms of biological warfare that can “target” specific genotypes may transform biological warfare from the realm of terror to a politically useful tool. This is merely a glimpse of the possibilities inherent in the process of transformation, not a precise prediction."

Again - this is only one source of information and other evidence. I haven't got time to go into them all.

Obviously neither have you.

Consider the signing of the Patriot Act and introduction of the "war on terror", essentially designed to take away the liberty of the people and create a climate of fear.

Look into "Problem.... Reaction.... Solution" and how governments have historically used "false flag" terror events like "gulf of tonkin" as a pre-text to intoduce war and new legislation and powers of control over the people.

Who benefits ? Tony Blair once said the terrorists will "not affect our way of life", but he didn't waste much time removing our liberties by introducing "The Terrorism Act" and they are still pushing new for new powers even today.

I've already spent weeks worth of time looking at the evidence already.

If you really want to learn the majority of the evidence, then watch Loose Change final cut on google video - that's a good starting point.

I'd also recommend "Terrorstorm" (A history of government sponsored terror)

Roland

The trouble is you can not as most people do expect one single piece of evidence which you are looking for you have to look at the whole event and try to assassinate the conspiracy theory.

For example one theory I came up with was that maybe the event's were originally meant to be a military exercise and may be the Muslim supposed hi jacker,s meant to be for the exercise decided to use the opportunity as part of a fundermentalist plan. But that still does not explain building 7 flight 93 or why thier was no wreckage of a bowing at the pentagon.

For get the idea of their own people how many governments now care about national sovereignty. Their own people are the world elite we are just the peasant scum.

At the end of the day most people over here do not care that every day Muslims are being killed in Iraq or Afghanistan their just Muslims. They mean nothing to us. When those people lost their lives on 9/11 the people who died mean nothing to those who perpetrated this crime as they were just people.

PCMadness

Tell me which airlines operate at over 50,000 feet? Few military aircraft operate at that altitude.

I also understood that the airliners had dropped to a relatively low level when the supposed calls were made.

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Mikeuk

Well, you are relying on Silverstein's statement

'I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse.'

So presumably you are including the Fire Department commander in your conspiracy?

I'd calm down if I were you. The way you're going on you'll end up having a stroke.

Mikeuk

So who was flying the planes, then?

CIA kamikaze pilots?

Roland

I doubt the conversation took place and as fireman our strictly forbidden from talking about 9/11 then we really our going to struggle to find out.