Roland

I work in the construction industry so i've got a fair idea about structure etc..

Changing the bolts would be basically impossible and you would run to much risk given the wait of the structure their would be far to much chance of a small part of the collapsing or becoming visibly unstable. If this happened then the question would be raised why has some one changed the bolts.

Mikeuk

No answer to my question.

What would have been the advantage to the supposed 'conspirators' in demolishing the building?

youcanhandlethetruth

Look at this article:

The Dollar$ & $en$e Of 911

"Not surprisingly, the CIA occupied offices in the WTC-7, which mysteriously fell down. Wrote Richard: "Larry Silverstein invested $386 million in WTC 7. On 9/11, by his own admission, Larry Silverstein ordered the demolition of his building (for all intents and purposes a highly secure,US government building). In February of 2002, his company won a settlement of $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers."

Like the hundreds of millions of dollars in gold and silver that reportedly disappeared from beneath the imploded WTC-7. Here stood a stout steet US government building, recently purchased, that inexplicably fell down from a few fires. Remarkable. Down below, far below street level, a vault containing hundreds of millions in gold was pillaged in the seven hours between the first strike and the collapse of WTC-7.

Was the cunning, insider, masterplan to hijack the gold while Islamic terrorists carried out their suicide plot? Sounds believable, doesn't it? Only one problem. For the hijackers to escape and cover their tracks, they would need to blow the building. Which fell seven hours after the Twin Towers. As mentioned, the building housed the secret spy organization, the CIA, most adept at diabolical deeds and monitoring Al Qaeda.

And curiously, the WTC-7 also warehoused an enormous amount of Security & Exchange records. Was there a connection between the destruction of WTC-7 and the SEC records? These records pertained to investigations into corporate scams totaling hundreds of millions of dollars. You don't suppose someone could have?---no, that's an impossibility."

Anyway Mike, if you think a murderer found leaning over a victims body with a blooded knife isn't guilty because there's no proof, then please at least admit it looks suspicious.

youcanhandlethetruth

Hartlepool, you mention the list of people in WTC7 who were in the building - can you elaborate further on that please ? I'm interested to know more.

Roland

I did.

I left those clips one which gave tremendously good reasons for destroying building 7. So I take it you did not watch them.

youcanhandlethetruth

Yes I forgot to point those clips out - Roland is right, they are very informative and give a lot more information than I possibly can.

What are you frightened of Mike ?

Hartlepool

ychtt,the Landlords list of 7WTC occupants was shown on this site via a video.If I find it I will let you know.With regard to the 2 Towers collapsing,seach me how that was controlled,unless a similar plan had been implimented as I describe below to Roland took place.Of course,all this collapsing could be the result of other factors which will perhaps always be unknown to us,one could also be good old gravity attraction downwards.

Roland,after spending forty odd years in the Construction industry as a Project Manager and Engineer I can assure you that changing out of column boltings is regular practice within the industry.Bolts are changed out on older buildings around the world every day,they are changed out one at a time,ie..one out,one back in, and, if you replaced some bolts with say 35% of substandard bolts a column would come down,not immediately,but quite soon.
So,a 24 bolt flange having only 9 bolts substituted would do the trick.
Doing this throughout the central columns at lowish level of a building would "control" the collapse.

Mikeuk

85,343 sq ft were occupied by the New York City Field Office of the US Secret Service. Most of the rest of the building was leased to banks and insurance companies including no less than 1,202,900 sq ft to Salomon Smith Barney. It was not a US government building.

Reported by whom? Reputable sources please.

Who says? Reputable sources please.

No.

(1) How did the hijackers escape the plane crashes which killed all the passengers in the airliners? Ejector seats?

(2) Why did they need to blow building 7, and why did they wait 7 hours instead of doing it straight away and making their escape?

(3) I thought your theory was that it was 'blown' by Silverstein and his co-conspirators in the NY Fire Dept?

The US Secret Service, which is tasked with federal investigations of financial crime and Presidential protection is not part of the CIA.

Why is that curious? The building was fulll of banks and other financial institutions. Here's a link for the tenant list.

http://www.intellnet.org/resources/c...terTenants.xls

For_England

I think the out-of-context 'pull it' quote is one of those arguments that tends to discredit the more serious work of people like Scholars for 911 Truth.

youcanhandlethetruth

That's not taken out of context that's exactly what he said.

Silverstein's Quote: (again ! )

"I remember getting a call from the Fire Department commander, telling me they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, you know, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is just pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

So maybe you're the one that's out of context.

Or do you mean his quote was "taken out of context" ?

If that's what you mean then what is the "it" referring to ? The firefighters ?

How thick do you think we are ?!!

(I don't mean the "911 truth movement", I mean the people who voted yes on this thread)

Or (more to the point) maybe I should ask "How thick are you ?"

Is my point totally lost on those without basic rationale ?
Or is it just a vain attempt to discredit anyone with common sense as biased ?(like the debunking 911 site)

Unless I'm missing somethign major here then someone with half a brain help me out please ?!!!!.....