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View Poll Results: Are the British people stupid and deserve what is coming?
Yes 10 38.46%
Of course 2 7.69%
Certainly 1 3.85%
For sure 1 3.85%
Not sure 4 15.38%
No 8 30.77%
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Old 30-12-2007, 03:26 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Indeed. I don't blame you for getting down about it, I do as well.
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Old 08-02-2008, 04:57 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I'm glad mkp raised this question - all of us who mean well and can see what's going on have thought this too I'm sure........

Some very interesting observations.

Yes people are ignorant but as Abbey says "The land that gave us Shakespeare has become the land controlled by the scriptwriters of East Enders."

So yes people are to blame, but if they know no better, then the system that made them ignorant and made them so is primarily to blame.
You cannot underestimate the effect TV being a 1-way medium has had on keeping people ignorant, feeding them misinformation and promoting false aspirations like acquiring celebrity status.

So I would add to the poll the answer:
"Yes, but the state made them this way."

Roland says "Why are people this stupid being put into positions of such importance." (referring to politicians).

When are we going to wake up and accept that the WHOLE POINT OF GOVERNMENT IS NOT TO HELP THE PEOPLE - it is about eugenics, social conditioning, financial rape in the form of monetary control etc etc.

The trouble is, even though the majority can see bad sh*t is going on all around(and getting worse by the day), they think it is government ineptness causing it - WRONG WRONG WRONG !
It is totally planned - they know exactly what they are doing.........

Even mkp who I consider is one of the most astute of individuals on the forum, doubts vaccines as a means of population control (for example)

Take any area of life where the govt could make things better - education, health care, liberty, you name it, and the governments role is to f**k it up as much as possible whilst pretending that they care and are reforming things for the better. Why ? Because WE are the enemy !

In fact I challenge anyone to name one thing that has improved as a consequence of government intervention - and I'll tell you what the REAL reason behind it is....... Go on ask me !

A good example is the war on terror and the muslim connection - whilst acting as a politically correct, respectful, multicultural society they are saying one thing but then doing another by protecting the immigrants more than the British born citizen.
They talk about freedom around the world, whilst taking more liberties every single day.
It's a parallel with America that is becoming increasingly apparent - fighting the "war on terror" whilst opening the borders to all and sundry to drive down the standard of living for all except the chosen few.

I'm not being racist, just explaining how the game works.

So until we accept the 2/3 party system are all playing for the same side, and wake up to this fact, then people will only realize the game is rigged until it is too late........

You think things are bad now ? Unless we expose the elite and their government servants as criminals we can't defeat them or change anything.

I still fear saying it for fear of ridicule but do we
1) accept that there is a plan to eradicate most of the worlds population ?
2) strongly suspect that 7/7 was an inside job (of course we know 9/11 was)

Sorry to say it but it's my opinion that anyone who disagrees with these statement isn't aware of the "game/endgame" or has been socially conditioned into believing that the powers that be are inept but ultimately care.

Of course I don't dispute the majority of people are good and well meaning, the point is that the elite are pyschopathic and out of control.

Hard to believe ? Ask yourself why it's hard to believe and you've got half the answer to the intital question - it's "social conditioning" that runs through every facet of our lives - it's the elephant in the room we can't see.

So I say thank god for the internet, but when they shut it down or censor it, where do we go ?

All the more reason to spread the word like wildfire now.........

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That is all so very true, and of course it has been going on for a very long time.

Airbrushed out of history now is the craven way Britain's inter-war controllers kept the country quiet while pursuing a course of total sellout to the European dictators. We were saved by Churchill, of course, but he was removed at the first available opportunity.

I have just been re-reading Douglas Reed's famous 1938 book 'Insanity fair'. Reed comments sarcastically on the way in which, in a supposedly free country, total press censorship was imposed over the Abdication crisis. As usual, British hypocrisy knew no bounds, and as usual the public were cynically and ruthlessly puppeteered.

Nothing has changed.
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I do not think the British people are stupid, I think they have been brainwashed into believing that Britain did terrible terrible things and that we cannot and must not ever take a leading role in world politics again.
I disagree! It may be the case for the elderly, but not the under 50 age bracket. Nowadays very few people under the age of 50 can't operate a computer. www. is a font of knowledge so there are no excuses for not knowing whats going on. Problem as I see it, people cant be "BOTHERED"! For the last 50 years Brits' on the whole have had a cushy life, foreign holidays, a wide variety of food and drink, TV, computers and household appliance luxuries their grandparents couldn't have have dreamt of! They think whoever governs them things will carry on the same, so why should they worry who it is. The indigenous Brits' have lost the pride in their Country that their grandparents had through having things too easy!
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The people are rather stupid, but in their defence they have been subjected to a sophisticated con operation.
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I disagree! It may be the case for the elderly, but not the under 50 age bracket. Nowadays very few people under the age of 50 can't operate a computer. www. is a font of knowledge so there are no excuses for not knowing whats going on. Problem as I see it, people cant be "BOTHERED"! For the last 50 years Brits' on the whole have had a cushy life, foreign holidays, a wide variety of food and drink, TV, computers and household appliance luxuries their grandparents couldn't have have dreamt of! They think whoever governs them things will carry on the same, so why should they worry who it is. The indigenous Brits' have lost the pride in their Country that their grandparents had through having things too easy!
Perhaps too, the religion of 'Getting and Spending' has obscured many, once thought valuable, aspects of life.
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The only thing I would say is the Newspapers are no better!
Exactly - and ask yourself why Rupert Murdoch, Fox et al are supporting Hilary Clinton...
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I disagree! It may be the case for the elderly, but not the under 50 age bracket. Nowadays very few people under the age of 50 can't operate a computer. www. is a font of knowledge so there are no excuses for not knowing whats going on. Problem as I see it, people cant be "BOTHERED"! For the last 50 years Brits' on the whole have had a cushy life, foreign holidays, a wide variety of food and drink, TV, computers and household appliance luxuries their grandparents couldn't have have dreamt of! They think whoever governs them things will carry on the same, so why should they worry who it is. The indigenous Brits' have lost the pride in their Country that their grandparents had through having things too easy!
You can't take one thing like operating a computer and use it as a yardstick for whether people are stupid or not because they have specialized knowledge in a very small area.
How many yuppies in America that trade the stock market and earn a fortune are completely unaware of what's happening to the dollar ? (same as most people on this forum too).

Government propaganda = ignorance = stupidity simple as......
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