If there was a referendum to leave the EU, and we lost...

Westcountryman · 19-12-2007, 11:09 PM

If there was a referendum given to the British people on the In/Out question, and we lost (ie. the British people voted to say in, say, by a majority of over 55%, or even 60%).

What would/should our course of action be?

tito · 19-12-2007, 11:22 PM

Pack your bags and leave the fools to endure every minute of the statist hell they deserve.

NoMoreEUSSR · 20-12-2007, 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by tito

Pack your bags and leave the fools to endure every minute of the statist hell they deserve.

Good advice. Trouble is, the rest of the world isn't too keen on taking political migrants! We're a group trapped right between refugees and economic migrants: we belong to neither and as such command the privileges of neither.

rjt · 20-12-2007, 06:57 AM

Continue fighting against any further intergration

Roland · 20-12-2007, 12:03 PM

If we lost the referendum if you can't beat em join em pack ya bags and move to spain and tell every one else to do the same when the poor old spanish can't even afford to live in their own country (bit like here really) maybe people will see the real effects of open boarders.

mkpdavies · 20-12-2007, 04:53 PM

Make use of my Canadian heritage. Then continue the fight from abroad, hoping the people finaly demand freedom again.

Kevin Adamson · 20-12-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Make use of my Canadian heritage. Then continue the fight from abroad, hoping the people finaly demand freedom again.

Me too Davies , Vancouver or Toronto?

Britannist · 21-12-2007, 12:44 AM

The fight would go on against the EU if an "in or out" referendum were lost by sovereigntists (i.e. if the anti-EU side did not win). It would be difficult for the pro-sovereignty (i.e. anti-EU) side to be heard fairly in a referendum campaign in our country because so many in the 'main' political parties (plus most of those in the trade unions, BBC and national press) are pro-EU. If we lost a referendum on quitting the EU (possibly narrowly), it could be down to the fact that millions of voters have not heard the truth about the EU because the europhiles (many in powerful positions in the political parties and media) have been (and remain) determined (indeed desperate) that they don't.

If we won a referendum and quit the EU, the europhiles in the UK would be campaigning for and working to try to get the UK back in the EU. So we must continue to campaign against UK membership of the EU should we lose an 'in our out' referendum.

The campaign to recover our lost sovereignty is a permanent one. Because once we are out of the EU we must oppose those in the UK who will try to reverse the decision of the UK to leave the EU.

Incidentally, I think we can win an 'in or out of the EU' referendum. The more the British public are made aware of the powers that the EU has; of the cost of it to each person in the UK and the fact that the EU is becoming a european superstate - the more chance we have of getting people to vote against the UK being in the EU.

At this time, our priority should be to get a retrospective referendum held on the EU Constitution Brown has just signed in Lisbon (i.e. EU 'Amending' Treaty).

Smidgey · 21-12-2007, 12:59 AM

I would be stuck here. Law is quite a nationally specific field. I would continue to try and change as many minds as I could though.

mkpdavies · 21-12-2007, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ranter

Me too Davies , Vancouver or Toronto?

Toronto. My sister has just sold her house in the U.K. and is getting the hell out. My Mum and Dad will follow in 2 years. They join my aunt and multiple cousins.

I am thinking about buying a couple of hundred acres of land out there now, ready for when the time comes.

View Poll Results: If we lost an In or Out Referendum, what should Eurosceptics do?
Continue to campaign to leave the European Union	20	60.61%
Campaign for reform of the EU instead of leaving	7	21.21%
Other (Please state)	6	18.18%
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19-12-2007, 11:09 PM	#1 (permalink)
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20-12-2007, 06:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,260	Continue fighting against any further intergration __________________ Mr Delors said that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the community, The Commission to be The Executive and The Council Of Ministers The Senate. NO! NO! NO! (Margaret Thatcher 30 Oct 1990) Ignore List: The Prophets of ST Al the Unelectable.

20-12-2007, 04:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
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21-12-2007, 12:44 AM	#8 (permalink)
Britannist Uber Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: London Posts: 22,896	EU, referendum, pro-sovereignty, anti-EU, parties, trade unions, BBC, referendum The fight would go on against the EU if an "in or out" referendum were lost by sovereigntists (i.e. if the anti-EU side did not win). It would be difficult for the pro-sovereignty (i.e. anti-EU) side to be heard fairly in a referendum campaign in our country because so many in the 'main' political parties (plus most of those in the trade unions, BBC and national press) are pro-EU. If we lost a referendum on quitting the EU (possibly narrowly), it could be down to the fact that millions of voters have not heard the truth about the EU because the europhiles (many in powerful positions in the political parties and media) have been (and remain) determined (indeed desperate) that they don't. If we won a referendum and quit the EU, the europhiles in the UK would be campaigning for and working to try to get the UK back in the EU. So we must continue to campaign against UK membership of the EU should we lose an 'in our out' referendum. The campaign to recover our lost sovereignty is a permanent one. Because once we are out of the EU we must oppose those in the UK who will try to reverse the decision of the UK to leave the EU. Incidentally, I think we can win an 'in or out of the EU' referendum. The more the British public are made aware of the powers that the EU has; of the cost of it to each person in the UK and the fact that the EU is becoming a european superstate - the more chance we have of getting people to vote against the UK being in the EU. At this time, our priority should be to get a retrospective referendum held on the EU Constitution Brown has just signed in Lisbon (i.e. EU 'Amending' Treaty). Last edited by Britannist; 21-12-2007 at 12:50 AM.

20-12-2007, 12:03 PM	#5 (permalink)
Roland Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 856	If we lost the referendum if you can't beat em join em pack ya bags and move to spain and tell every one else to do the same when the poor old spanish can't even afford to live in their own country (bit like here really) maybe people will see the real effects of open boarders.

21-12-2007, 12:59 AM	#9 (permalink)
Smidgey Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,129 Party: Libertarian Party	I would be stuck here. Law is quite a nationally specific field. I would continue to try and change as many minds as I could though. __________________ How vain is man, who boasts in fight the valour of gigantic might! -Georg Friedrich Händel

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