Catholic Church advises schools Amnesty association is probalamatic.

rjt · 18-11-2007, 03:25 PM

Catholics ban Amnesty over abortion policy - Telegraph

Following Amnesty Internationals decision to abandon its neutrality as regards abortion Catholic Bishops are advising Schools not to have dealings with them.

Smidgey · 18-11-2007, 04:36 PM

Schools shouldn't have dealings with the Catholic church either.

The vile hypocrisy of the immoral Catholic church is revealed again.

rjt · 19-11-2007, 07:58 AM

Catholic Shcools provide an excellent standard of education, or maybe you dont like our children to be well educated. Choice in educaation as long as it does not involve faith schools is your discriminatory policy.

Smidgey · 19-11-2007, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by rjt

Catholic Shcools provide an excellent standard of education, or maybe you dont like our children to be well educated. Choice in educaation as long as it does not involve faith schools is your discriminatory policy.

Typical of someone who supports the current church/state settlement. Just because I don't think Catholicism should be in schools doesn't mean that I think it should be legally enforced. I don't automatically think my opinions should be law, which is a conclusion you seemed to have jumped to in this instance.

I never said we shouldn't have choice in education and I have nothing against you education your child any way you wish. Just don't expect everyone else to pay for your decision to have children. You had them, not me.

The Catholic church is immoral because it does not believe in self-ownership. The same is true of the Anglican church and the Church of Scotland. It is rather sad that such organisations that do not even believe in the fundamental right of human liberty are so pervasive in our society. There are plenty of religious people who believe in self ownership and I'm sure there are many Catholics and Protestants who believe in self ownership as well. The high ups in these organisations sadly don't.

rjt · 19-11-2007, 10:11 AM

Yes I do support the Church and State Settlement because it serves our country well and whilst there is breath in my body I will go on arguing against people like you who do not. You inablity to acknoledge that the settlement is a mutually beneficial one is riddicluous, stop and think how many people benefit from it in local communitys, it works so why would you wish to break it.

Smidgey · 19-11-2007, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by rjt

Yes I do support the Church and State Settlement because it serves our country well and whilst there is breath in my body I will go on arguing against people like you who do not. You inablity to acknoledge that the settlement is a mutually beneficial one is riddicluous, stop and think how many people benefit from it in local communitys, it works so why would you wish to break it.

Firstly, because I believe in individual liberty, unlike you.

Secondly, in the USA - where church and state are separate - religious charities are much better at the tasks you describe than they are here.

Thirdly, can you please provide me with evidence that shows that the church needs the government in order to be charitable. It seems as if you are claiming that the church is impotent without the backing of the violent state. I'm surprised that a Christian, who supposedly prides himself on being moral, can be in favour of such violent actions.

Smidgey · 19-11-2007, 02:27 PM

P.S. Don't think I'm taking sides here, there are plenty of organisations that take this immoral stance - since this topic is about religion, I am just mentioning the religious ones.

rjt · 19-11-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Smidgey

Firstly, because I believe in individual liberty, unlike you.

Secondly, in the USA - where church and state are separate - religious charities are much better at the tasks you describe than they are here.

Thirdly, can you please provide me with evidence that shows that the church needs the government in order to be charitable. It seems as if you are claiming that the church is impotent without the backing of the violent state. I'm surprised that a Christian, who supposedly prides himself on being moral, can be in favour of such violent actions.

it is not about who needs who it is about a partnership that is working well and one that you seek to dismantle.

rjt · 19-11-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Smidgey

P.S. Don't think I'm taking sides here, there are plenty of organisations that take this immoral stance - since this topic is about religion, I am just mentioning the religious ones.

the Church is not taking an immoral stance it is working with others regardless of diffrences of belief to create a better society for all of us to live in, there is nothing wrong with providing support for people.

Anthony Smithee · 19-11-2007, 02:46 PM

Hmmm. On the other thread you stated that the Chuch should stand firm against 'vile' practices and proclaim 'Christ's Lordship' over this Earth.

A better society would indeed result from this, if you only look at the conditions for Christians.

18-11-2007, 03:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
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Smidgey Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,222 Party: Libertarian Party	Schools shouldn't have dealings with the Catholic church either. The vile hypocrisy of the immoral Catholic church is revealed again. __________________ How vain is man, who boasts in fight the valour of gigantic might! -Georg Friedrich Händel

19-11-2007, 07:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,481	Catholic Shcools provide an excellent standard of education, or maybe you dont like our children to be well educated. Choice in educaation as long as it does not involve faith schools is your discriminatory policy. __________________ Mr Delors said that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the community, The Commission to be The Executive and The Council Of Ministers The Senate. NO! NO! NO! (Margaret Thatcher 30 Oct 1990) Ignore List: The Prophets of ST Al the Unelectable.

19-11-2007, 10:11 AM	#5 (permalink)
rjt Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Aldershot Posts: 5,481	Yes I do support the Church and State Settlement because it serves our country well and whilst there is breath in my body I will go on arguing against people like you who do not. You inablity to acknoledge that the settlement is a mutually beneficial one is riddicluous, stop and think how many people benefit from it in local communitys, it works so why would you wish to break it. __________________ Mr Delors said that he wanted the European Parliament to be the democratic body of the community, The Commission to be The Executive and The Council Of Ministers The Senate. NO! NO! NO! (Margaret Thatcher 30 Oct 1990) Ignore List: The Prophets of ST Al the Unelectable.

19-11-2007, 02:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
Smidgey Uber Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 2,222 Party: Libertarian Party	P.S. Don't think I'm taking sides here, there are plenty of organisations that take this immoral stance - since this topic is about religion, I am just mentioning the religious ones. __________________ How vain is man, who boasts in fight the valour of gigantic might! -Georg Friedrich Händel

19-11-2007, 02:46 PM	#10 (permalink)
Anthony Smithee Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Portsmouth, Hampshire Posts: 73	Hmmm. On the other thread you stated that the Chuch should stand firm against 'vile' practices and proclaim 'Christ's Lordship' over this Earth. A better society would indeed result from this, if you only look at the conditions for Christians.

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