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| Not only am I opposed to all immigration, I would favour the repatriation of illegals. |
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15 | 39.47% |
| I am opposed to all immigration into Great Britain & Ireland. |
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2 | 5.26% |
| I am opposed to all extra-European immigration into Great Britain & Ireland. |
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1 | 2.63% |
| I am sympathetic to limited inter-European immigration into Great Britain & Ireland. |
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3 | 7.89% |
| I am sympathetic to all limited and well regulated immigration into Great Britian & Ireland. |
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17 | 44.74% |
| I see no reason to interfere in the free, unregulated flow of migrants within the EU. |
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1 | 2.63% |
| I am a convinced believer in the philosophy of multiculturalism. |
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2 | 5.26% |
| Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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For what is essentially a gritty tale set in a crime-ridden slum, this is an astonishingly beautiful film. It centres on a teen gang leader called Tsotsi (Chweneyagae), which means "thug", who swaggers around his Soweto neighbourhood with his gang, violently robbing and assaulting with no concern for life or property. His partners in crime are the bookish Boston (Magano), open-faced Aap (Nkosi) and ruthless Butcher (Ngqobe), and together they're add to the culture of violence and fear in Johannesburg.
After Tsotsi brutally carjacks a Mercedes belonging to a rich suburban couple (Seiphemo and Mpumlwana), he discovers their infant baby in the back seat. And he suddenly comes over all paternal, surprising even himself with his desire to give the baby the happy childhood he never had. Although he's going to need a lot of help; so he coerces a young mother (Pheto) living nearby to care for the child. And even so, over six days he discovers it's a lot more work than he thought it would be. Writer-director Hood has a clever way of combining gruesome reality with more lyrical beauty, showing us in no uncertain terms the horrific childhood Tsotsi must have endured, as well as the stresses of life as a criminal. This is the land of Aids orphans, children who had to grow up on their own after their parents died, and they discover early that guns and theft and drugs all help them keep going. The only real hope for survival is to discover a tiny shred of humanity lurking inside. The story, based on a novel by playwright Athol Fugard, is an extremely bleak compilation of South African societal woes, but Hood keeps it involving through the open, honest performances and a warm, soulful filming style. The cinematography has an almost fairy tale glow to it, turning Soweto into an otherworldly location that captures the forbidding settings with strangely comforting luminosity. And the actors all brilliantly convey their characters' wit and energy, as well as their desire to make their life better than it is - no matter what it takes. The actors never flinch from the fierce realities of their characters, but what sets this film apart from other youthful slum stories (see City of God or Boyz N The Hood) is an almost overpowering sense of hope for humanity. We can see that none of these people are lost causes. And they don't need much dialog to convey this; it comes from inside. Meanwhile, the script adds layers of complexity as we get to know the various people, each with a distinct perspective on their environment - the young woman who reluctantly cares for the child, the cafe owner (Nyandeni) who has the right motives doesn't really help, the baby's wealthy and confused parents. The contrast between them couldn't be more stark, and yet there's a sense that the residents of Johannesburg's various castes are all in this together. And at the centre we have a young man who has never allowed himself to grow up, but might now be forced into adulthood. His story is both utterly harrowing and powerfully life-affirming. No wonder it won over the Oscar voters. ![]() |
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Thanks Mountaineer. The next time one of these people tries to tell you on one of those internet sites that the Africans came to South Africa to enjoy the benefits of white civilization or that they lived "well", please hit him for me.
The scenes in this film are like the scenes in reality. The people look the same. The children in cement pipes? Oh, yes, we have seen people living on a rubbish dump in drums with plastic strung between for a roof. We called it "drum town". Can you rush over there and help? No. Because the only help that stays after the champagne and balloons is the kind you can give yourself - with a little bit of luck. |
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Oh don't be so bloody stupid! Look:
allanon, bnpforme, Brendan Scarborough, Britannist, david H, Gramboy2, Hartlepool, Haz, Mikeuk, Millennium3, Populist Lee four or five of those are UKIP aren't they? In fact I see only one voter who even admits to voting BNP on here - myself - and I'm not a member so I'm not 'bnp' as you state. Get it together man! Perhaps people are just fed up with how far things have come, you know? |
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Furthermore, government accountable to the people? Don't make me laugh. The government wont ever be accountable to the people, even if it is the 'utopia' you desire, since not everyone will agree. Thus it will not be accountable to them. Finally, I want to quote two passages from the above statement where you clearly contradict yourself: Quote:
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Finally, I did not realise that those before us bequeathed us the totalitarian mess we are in now. Unless you are trying to give them that credit...
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Yes, I have also noticed a concerted effort on the part of the free love crowd to bump up old and inactive threads to try and displace the immigration thread from its usual position at the top of the pops. Typical. B.
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Kidulthood
Featuring bullying, casual sex, hard drug abuse, complete disregard for authority, organized crime and even murder, if ever a film wanted an ASBO more than an Oscar, it's Kidulthood. Wearing its multiracial "messed-up youth" mantra as a badge of honour. Quote:
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8 mile
The 8 Mile of the title is the name of a road in Detroit that marks a figurative and literal boundary between the haves and have-nots. Eminem plays Jimmy Smith, Jr., aka "Rabbit" as his family and friends call him, who is definitely one of the have-nots. He is a struggling rap artist, who bounces around from job to job in hopes of earning enough money for studio time to record his demos, but in the meantime lives with his mother (Basinger, Bless the Child) and young sister (Greenfield, Project 313) in a trailer, the epitome of the "white trash" existence. He is an angry young lad, but his best friends know he is the most talented as far as skillz among them, that is when he isn't on stage choking from fear of the spotlight. As he struggles to earn the respect of his peers, life on the streets always threatens to consume him, from rival crews and gun-toting thugs, and happiness is something that seems to forever elude him. Survival of the fittest, or phattest as it were, with everyone around struggling to claw their way to air time and the ability to pull themselves out of ghetto existence. |
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Police are to hold talks with the leaders of south London's most violent gangs in an attempt to cut gun crime.
BBC NEWS | England | London | Police to hold talks with gangs |
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