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View Poll Results: Your views on immigration.
Not only am I opposed to all immigration, I would favour the repatriation of illegals. 15 39.47%
I am opposed to all immigration into Great Britain & Ireland. 2 5.26%
I am opposed to all extra-European immigration into Great Britain & Ireland. 1 2.63%
I am sympathetic to limited inter-European immigration into Great Britain & Ireland. 3 7.89%
I am sympathetic to all limited and well regulated immigration into Great Britian & Ireland. 17 44.74%
I see no reason to interfere in the free, unregulated flow of migrants within the EU. 1 2.63%
I am a convinced believer in the philosophy of multiculturalism. 2 5.26%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-11-2007, 07:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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KERNOW:It goes to show how big a concern immigration is to people who read this forum, as only 15 have so far bothered to vote!
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MKPDAVIES:People probably don't want to reveal their names against their positions.
Or they ignore the poll section.
What the lack of participation indicates, is that the anti-EU faction are running scared from my OPEN poll. And as for the fence sitters who have elected not to participate in the poll because the options were not definitive enough? Please. I can't account for every nuance of opinion. The options were more than adequate.

Of course the Administrator and all the 'visible' members weighed in with a politically correct vote; as they must be mindful that this forum is being closely monitored by the thought police. There is no doubt, a facsimile of this poll has been squirreled away in a variety of watch dog databases.
Not that I would challenge the sincerity of anyones Multicult sentiments.

It is good to know, however, who here might turn me into the Комите́т Госуда́рственной Безопа́сности Европеец. - For my dissident views

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Wow, I have an opinion that is politically correct.
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Wow, I have an opinion that is politically correct.
Better to be PC than a communitarian.
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Of course the Administrator and all the 'visible' members weighed in with a politically correct vote;
I certainly didn't choose my vote because of political correctness, I voted the way I did, because I am sympathetic to all limited and well regulated immigration into Great Britain & Ireland!
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I certainly didn't choose my vote because of political correctness, I voted the way I did, because I am sympathetic to all limited and well regulated immigration into Great Britain & Ireland!
Yes, thank you. It is helpful to know you are a genuine multiculturalist.

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Better to be PC than a communitarian.
Personally, I am neither. I would think the average member of the PC gang would have more in common with an ideologically communitarian world view than a Nationalist. What would be the chief distinction between communitarianism and liberal, bleeding heart Socialism?

Do I favour the idea of providing social assistance and support to the less advantaged of our Countrymen? Pensioners, the disabled, orphans? Of course. I am not without compassion. Do I look positively upon the Danish Government allocating 7% of its GNP for foreign aid, or Britain's granting sanctuary to bonus asylum seekers? Not on your life. Let the Kurds and Parsees find refuge in Asia, not Europe.

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Personally, I am neither. I would think the average member of the PC gang would have more in common with an ideologically communitarian world view than a Nationalist. What would be the chief distinction between communitarianism and liberal, bleeding heart Socialism?

Do I favour the idea of providing social assistance and support to the less advantaged of our Countrymen? Pensioners, the disabled, orphans? Of course. I am not without compassion. Do I look positively upon the Danish Government allocating 7% of its GNP for foreign aid, or Britain's granting sanctuary to bonus asylum seekers? Not on your life. Let the Kurds and Parsees find refuge in Asia, not Europe.

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I'm curious, how is what Denmark does with its money your business?
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I'm curious, how is what Denmark does with its money your business?
How is what I say and think about the destruction of Occidental Civilisation any government's business? Yet I'd soon find myself the subject of Inquiries were I to espouse my beliefs publicly from atop a stump in Hyde park.

Since Big brother and his liberal dupes concern themselves with every aspect of my life, I think I am entitled to an opinion on misplaced altruism and wasteful Western largesse.

Why aren't you writing about the Danish passport holding Turkish scum who recently urged his Muslim co-religionists to kidnap Danish citizens rather than snipe at me over such banalities?

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Ooooh, I'm a "fence sitter". I remember this remark from somewhere else, so those little brass bells are going off in my little wooden head. Anyone who doesn't agree with steel toed conquest is dismissed as a "fence sitter". You can't go round mistaking decency or ethics for mere liberalism all of the time, some of the time you are going to have get to grips with the fact that not everyone who isn't an extremist is a fairy.
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Brendan, I am not a Liberal. People who know me will find this very odd of you!
Yes, I have been told in private that I am rediculously off the mark. However I was really responding to a particular excerpt in your post, and it was not my intent to paint your general sentiments with so broad a brush. I am aware of your largely conservative attitudes.
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Be careful what you say about the Afrikaners as it is you who is talking "rubbish", not I. But then I have lived in the country under question for over fifty years and know the research and know the regime and know the people. I know my own people here too, of course, and never the twain shall meet. To say the Boers are 100% white is like saying, hand on heart, that every white American is 100% paleface. You know it isn't true.
A West Indian can call himself a Welshman, but his self-profession doesn't make it so. When I refer to Afrikaaners, I am talking of the descendants of the Dutch settlers in Southern Africa. An Afrikaaner with Black ancestry is not a true Afrikaaner but a coloured masquerading in some other guise. No matter how many generations of purely European union may have intervened since the ancestral miscegenation. Speaking Afrikaans does not make someone an Afrikaaner anymore than speaking English makes one an Englishman.

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The Afrikaners know it isn't true and do not dispute it. They are realists. I'm not talking about the small group of radical racists your ideology loves to admire, but the real Afrikaners who have few delusions left about their existence and are moving on. You won't find these trying to garner sympathy out of anyone. They are fully capable of looking after themselves, as are we all here in this volatile place.
Shall we blithely follow our Afrikaaner brothers into oblivion with the same abject indiference you seemingly ascribe them?
My ideology? What ideology would that be, pray tell?

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Imagine thinking I did not know the difference between a "Coloured" and a Boer! Really, Brendan, where have you been? Who has been whispering sweet nothings in your willing ear? Did you know that the real original Boers used to call the Coloured nation here "brown Afrikaners"? Did you know they used to call the native Africans "the folk"? You see, Afrikaners always knew who was whom. They have no delusions.
My acquaintence with history, Anthropology/anthropogeny, and ethnography is quite extensive actually.

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Some may have gone all nazi when they got into power and crushed the rest of their folk into submission, but it didn't last and it came to pieces and now we are all suffering. Take a lesson. History is capable of repeating itself.
Are you referring to the Apartheid government as Nazi? Let me give you a history lesson. ( I know I am going to the shed for that). Southern Africa was a wasteland when the Dutch settlers arrived, with not a Bantu hut in site. The indigenous people of Southern Africa are the San. A people of quite distinct race from the Negro NDebele, Zulu and the like. They were once a numerous people who ranged from the Mediterranean shores of North Africa, to the shores of the Indian Ocean at the Cape. They have been largely exterminated by Bantu , Nilotic, and Hamitic speakers.

The Dutch built a modern civilisation from rocks and dust and THEN the Zulus and others- who are not indigenous to South Africa- showed up to take advantage of European amenities.

The result of the liberal driven, Negrocetric International campaign of hate against the Afrikaaner which resulted in a transfer of power from the people who created South Africa to the terrorist Nelson Mandela and his murderous, ethnocentric Inkatha movement- is that South Africa, who's black citizens once enjoyed the highest standard of living of any Blacks in sub-saharan Africa -despite those horrible 'racist' Afrikaaner extremists-, has been reduced to a third world sewer where the Black dominated government cannot even manage to keep the lights on or the telephones ringing, and whites cower in the sheep pens as wild eyed Negro thugs burn their homes, their farms, and even commit murder.

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The Liberals, incidentally, think I am a racist and a fascist. Somewhere in there is the truth. Maybe someday someone will be able to see me. Being English can be very trying. No one understands us.
The contemporary Englishman is too high minded and progressive. Europeans in general are generous to a fault; and a world of grasping, wholly unappreciative aliens are taking advantage of our folly. We need look back to our not so distant past for salvation. Ol' Bess would have sent every traitorous **** on every seat in the house of Commons and the house of Lords to the tower, and ultimately to the Axe. E1 was indisputably the greatest Queen in English history. And she was a Nationalist.

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You are obviously a Lady of Quality, and I mean that sincerely. Perhaps I should have consigned you a fate in the House of Lords. An institution the Lib scum are trying to abolish by the way.

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I was referring not to car washers and burger flippers as immigrants but to the sharing of intelligence and skills that characterises every civilized democracy. You will see this exchange happening between the west and the new Asia more and more now that Asia is rising and people with capability are needed to help build new industries. The desalination industry is an example. Many Europeans are going to Saudi Arabia to learn of their methods as they are leading the field in this method. The Arabs are greening their deserts. This will change the entire economic scene for them and open up new sectors. Brazil has just discovered oil deposits. Brazil will be engaging the world's oil workers and expertise to help turn the country into a mega rich nation.
If that is what you were saying, than we are not at odds.

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Those kind of immigrants are always in demand. But they are high earners and few in number. To think I was referring to the flood of riff raff that characterises the British immigration scenario is to be carried away by the idea that I am a lefty.
Inferring that you have any degree of sympathy with the liberal agenda is a faux pas I ,no doubt, will find difficult to live down.

I have no doubt that were we to find ourselves sitting across from each other over a nice cuppa and a plate full of Pastries-we'd get on quite nicely. I promise to leave me autographed copy of Mein Kampf at home

Best regards. A somewhat younger and impetuous patriot.

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