UKIP members move to the English Democrats

Andrew Constantine · 29-07-2007, 12:33 PM

We are starting to see a really significant increase in good UKIP members deciding to join the English Democrats so that they can oppose the EU more effectively in this new, democratic and well run party.

These former UKIP members joining the English Democrats live in England and are saying that if Labour's botched devolution laws are not going to be repealed, then it is only fair that England should have her own Parliament.

The new UKIP members are very welcome in the English Democrats and they are steadily building up the party's lists of national officers, local chairmen and candidates. We still have posts to be filled for some county chairmen, for many parliamentary candidates and a few for the London Assembly.

Together we will campaign under English colours and provide effective opposition to the pro-EU parties and the anti-democratic BBC.

Andrew Constantine
A United England in a United Kingdom, free of the EU.

ryansoton · 29-07-2007, 12:44 PM

I was asked to join but im happy where i am thanx

John Doe · 29-07-2007, 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andrew Constantine

this new, democratic and well run party.

Just how new is this party? This is what Wikipedia says:

Quote:

In 1997, and in response to calls for the devolution of power to Scotland and Wales, Robin Tilbrook formed the English National Party, with the aim of reforming the defunct English National Party which had been founded in the 1960s, but had ceased operating as a party by 1981...

The party was relaunched as the English Democrats Party in September 2002, after merging with several other smaller political parties. In October 2004, the party merged with the Reform UK Party, which was a small splinter group from the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP). The New England Party merged with the English Democrats in February 2007.

Formed 1997, renamed 2002. Not so new after all then?

Populist Lee · 29-07-2007, 01:38 PM

Isn't it convenient that the EDs no longer give details of membership numbers.

We can no longer gauge the veracity of any claim of an increase.
I expect very few UKIPPERS have deserted directly.

Andrew Constantine · 29-07-2007, 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Populist Lee

Isn't it convenient that the EDs no longer give details of membership numbers.

We can no longer gauge the veracity of any claim of an increase.
I expect very few UKIPPERS have deserted directly.

Just to start with:

National Treasurer & London Area Chairman
Yorkshire Area Chairman
Essex County Leader

etc, etc

Andrew Constantine

Populist Lee · 29-07-2007, 02:52 PM

I make that three, Mr Treasurer.

eublues · 29-07-2007, 02:59 PM

"We are starting to see a really significant increase in good UKIP members deciding to join the English Democrats so that they can oppose the EU more effectively in this new, democratic and well run party."

Pull the other one - it's got bells on it.

Anthony Butcher · 29-07-2007, 04:59 PM

How many members have switched from UKIP to the EDs in the last three months?

Andrew Constantine · 29-07-2007, 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony Butcher

How many members have switched from UKIP to the EDs in the last three months?

Anthony

Thanks for the enquiry. I do not have the figures to hand, but I will ask and revert by the end of next weekend. The English Democrats have their monthly NC meeting next Saturday so I can always check out then and come back with an approximate figure.

I do not intentionally mislead or lie - even in politics! You may be surprised at how many of our new members have a UKIP background.

Andrew Constantine
A United England in a United Kingdom, free of the EU

Andrew Constantine · 29-07-2007, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Populist Lee

I make that three, Mr Treasurer.

Populist Lee

I posted the three names because I didn't have to do any checks on individaul members. I have asked for the names of others who have a UKIP background and (if it is of any interest) will revert.

Andrew Constantine
A United England in a United Kingdom, free of the EU

29-07-2007, 12:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
Andrew Constantine Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 959 Party: Free England Party	UKIP members move to the English Democrats We are starting to see a really significant increase in good UKIP members deciding to join the English Democrats so that they can oppose the EU more effectively in this new, democratic and well run party. These former UKIP members joining the English Democrats live in England and are saying that if Labour's botched devolution laws are not going to be repealed, then it is only fair that England should have her own Parliament. The new UKIP members are very welcome in the English Democrats and they are steadily building up the party's lists of national officers, local chairmen and candidates. We still have posts to be filled for some county chairmen, for many parliamentary candidates and a few for the London Assembly. Together we will campaign under English colours and provide effective opposition to the pro-EU parties and the anti-democratic BBC. Andrew Constantine A United England in a United Kingdom, free of the EU.

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29-07-2007, 12:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
ryansoton Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Southampton Posts: 782 Party: Other	I was asked to join but im happy where i am thanx

29-07-2007, 01:38 PM	#4 (permalink)
Populist Lee Uber Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,247 Party: Other	Isn't it convenient that the EDs no longer give details of membership numbers. We can no longer gauge the veracity of any claim of an increase. I expect very few UKIPPERS have deserted directly.

29-07-2007, 02:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
Populist Lee Uber Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 2,247 Party: Other	I make that three, Mr Treasurer.

29-07-2007, 02:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
eublues Uber Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,128	"We are starting to see a really significant increase in good UKIP members deciding to join the English Democrats so that they can oppose the EU more effectively in this new, democratic and well run party." Pull the other one - it's got bells on it.

29-07-2007, 04:59 PM	#8 (permalink)
Anthony Butcher Administrator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Long Ashton, Bristol Posts: 10,205 Party: None	How many members have switched from UKIP to the EDs in the last three months?