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Old 17-02-2007, 11:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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What's your 10 point 'Mini Manifesto'? Doesn't have to be expertly detailed, just a bit of fun.

Mine is:

1) Hold a referendum on whether the UK should withdraw from the EU (if successful join ETFA)

2) Introduce a form of PR to the House of Commons

3) Renationalise key utilities (electricty, gas, oil)

4) Introduce a form of Citizen's Service - 6 month military service followed by 6 months Community Service

5) Reintroduce Grammar Schools nationally

6) Increase Defence spending to match national commitments abroad (also maintain nuclear deterrent)

7) Implement £6-12,000 means tested bursary for married families where the mother elects to stay at home.

8 ) Hold a referendum on whether Capital Punishment should be reitnroduced to the UK

9) Repeal the Human Rights Act

10) Introduce a 'points system' for immigration. Skilled labour and English speakers encouraged, enforced by a national 'UK Border Police'.
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Old 17-02-2007, 12:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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What's your 10 point 'Mini Manifesto'? Doesn't have to be expertly detailed, just a bit of fun.

Mine is:

1) Hold a referendum on whether the UK should withdraw from the EU (if successful join ETFA)

2) Introduce a form of PR to the House of Commons

3) Renationalise key utilities (electricty, gas, oil)

4) Introduce a form of Citizen's Service - 6 month military service followed by 6 months Community Service

5) Reintroduce Grammar Schools nationally

6) Increase Defence spending to match national commitments abroad (also maintain nuclear deterrent)

7) Implement £6-12,000 means tested bursary for married families where the mother elects to stay at home.

8 ) Hold a referendum on whether Capital Punishment should be reitnroduced to the UK

9) Repeal the Human Rights Act

10) Introduce a 'points system' for immigration. Skilled labour and English speakers encouraged, enforced by a national 'UK Border Police'.
I agree with a lot of that except number 10.
We need to end all economic migration now.
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I agree with a lot of that except number 10.
Ha! And you think I'm a Marxist!

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No military service please.
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No military service please.
Why not?
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or father?
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No military service please.
Why not?
It's barbaric; besides, there are plenty more than enough willing to sign up voluntarily!

There are plenty of other ways one can support one's country. Though, I might be a little more sympathetic to the military duty concept if one has a fundamental right to do what the Germans call Ersatzdienst - "substitute service", i.e. a stint of community work in lieu of joining the army. (AIUI though, under the German system this is strictly speaking a privilege, not a right: you have to convince the relevant authorities you're a truly committed pacifist in order to qualify for Ersatzdienst.)
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7) Implement £6-12,000 means tested bursary for married families where the mother elects to stay at home.

or father?
Yeah, I'm down with that.


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No military service please.

Why not?

It's barbaric; besides, there are plenty more than enough willing to sign up voluntarily!

There are plenty of other ways one can support one's country. Though, I might be a little more sympathetic to the military duty concept if one has a fundamental right to do what the Germans call Ersatzdienst - "substitute service", i.e. a stint of community work in lieu of joining the army. (AIUI though, under the German system this is strictly speaking a privilege, not a right: you have to convince the relevant authorities you're a truly committed pacifist in order to qualify for Ersatzdienst.)
Yeah NoMoreEUSSR, good suggestion, more here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscri...y#Alternatives.

Anyway you guys, I intended this to be a thread for all of you, please feel free to include your own 'mini-manifestos'! :wink:
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Hmmm...

I could just copy and paste the beginning of a manifesto I was writing for a political party I considered setting up when older, or I could just write it out again.
I'm lazy. What the hey.

I decided that I'm slightly socialist but more conservative. Thus the socialist aspects of the manifesto.

It's incomplete, but it should reveal most of my views.
Enjoy.



The Political Manifesto of the British Traditionalist Socialist Party


Introduction:

We, the British Traditionalist Socialist Party (hereafter known as 'the Party'), hereby declare our intentions of transforming Britain into a modern, liberal state but one which is run by traditional values, a Britain in which the strong moral and national values are strict, perhaps, but in which those selfsame values also increase courtesy and respect for one another and one another's emotions and possessions.


What does our name mean?

Our name is made of four distinct parts:
1. 'British': This is obvious. We are a British political party, based in Britain and running for election in the British Parliament, all in an attempt to do what we think is best for Britain and her interests.
2. 'Traditionalist': We yearn for the days of yore, when a British gentleman was considered the epitome of courtesy and the British people were renowned for their tenacity, determination, respect, benevolence and advancements in all aspects of life. We aim to do our very best to bring those times back.
3. 'Socialist': We are a political party dedicated to helping the people. We are for the centralization of all essential industries and services; we bow down to the will of the people, and we find the idea of a functional British welfare state in keeping with our aims.
4. Lastly, 'Party': We are a democratic group, eager to be elected by the democratic process, to be kept in power by the democratic process and, if it is the will of the people, to stand down by the democratic process.


What is the stance of the Party on energy and the environment?

The Party is aware of and concerned by both the impending potential energy crisis and the harmful threat and reality of global warming.
The Party is for the nationalization of all energy providers in the United Kingdom and the setting of a fair, low electricity rate. The Party is for the conversion of all power stations to a mixture of nuclear and renewable fuel; renewable being in the majority.
The Party is for introducing legislation to combat negative industrial effect on the environment and is for the introduction of legislation to severely punish any industry organisation that disobeys this legislation.


What is the stance of the Party on the United Nations?

The Party is keen that the United Kingdom should begin to play a more influential role in the United Nations. The Party feels that a check on the power of individual nations in the United Nations should be placed and that the United Kingdom is perfectly positioned to take on such a role.


What is the stance of the Party on the European Union?

The Party is emphatically against the European Union and British integration into the European Union.
While the Party acknowledges that the European Union exists only for the furtherment of European relations, development and influence, the Party is not convinced that the European Union would act in line with the wishes of Britain at times, and at some points may even oppose British intervention in affairs outside the scope of the European Union's activities.
The Party is also concerned about the European Union's legislatory procedures and is not convinced that the European Union acts solely in the interest of the European populace.
Lastly, the Party is also concerned about the difficulty of maintaining traditional British heritage, procedures and British naval and air strength in the face of the European Union's legislature.


What is the stance of the Party on the Commonwealth of Nations?

The Party is most emphatically for further development in and integration into the Commonwealth of Nations.
The Party feels that Britain and other members of the Commonwealth can relate to one another in a more agreeable manner than to nations not currently members.
The Party feels that Britain and the Commonwealth could, with the aid of their strong historical and cultural ties, engage themselves in becoming active economic and international partners and could potentially change the course of events on the global scale for the better in many situations.


What is the stance of the Party on the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation?

The Party is neutral on this point and feels that all issues relating to this point must be considered individually on their merits and flaws.


What is the stance of the Party on the relationship with the United States of America?

The Party errs towards a distancing of the the United Kingdom from the United States of America.
The Party is convinced that on many occasions in the past the United States of America has proven itself to have no interest in British affairs, nor any intention of aiding in supporting British maintenance and protection of those interests. The Party feels that this is unfair to the United Kingdom, which has often aided the United States of America in maintaining and protecting American interests and in the protection of the United States of America's allies' interests.
The Party is prepared to reconsider its stance should the United States of America revise its policy towards the United Kingdom.


What is the stance of the Party on British military strength?

The Party is for increasing the strength of the British military in all three services.
The Party feels that British military strength has been sorely neglected in recent history and feels that investment in the Royal Navy in particular has been disappointing.
The Party considers that the Royal Navy should be second to none in terms of discipline, training, gunnery skills, logistics, quality of warships and leadership, especially in view of British traditional naval superiority.
The Party considers that the Royal Air Force also has been neglected in recent history and feels that investment in the Royal Air Force should be increased to provide adequate security for the United Kingdom.
The Party considers that the British Army has been neglected and misused perhaps most severely of all; the Party feels that the British Army is lacking in both quantity and quality of equipment, even despite the best efforts of all present in the Army. The Party is also concerned about the fact that the British Army is now below establishment strength; the Party feels that this should be remedied as soon as possible.


What is the stance of the Party on nuclear armaments?

The Party is for the maintenance and improvement of current British nuclear strength. However, the Party is also aware of the problems that nuclear armaments can bring and is keen that all nuclear powers, the United Kingdom included, should endeavour to decrease reserves of nuclear armaments to, if not a non-existent strength, then at least to a reasonably low level consistent with national security and the countering of hostile armaments.


What is the stance of the Party on crime?

The Party is keen that the existing law enforcement system in the United Kingdom be improved greatly.
The Party feels that there is now no longer a consistent or severe enough system of punishment in the United Kingdom. The Party feels that criminals of the highest sin are being allowed to escape a punishment suited to their crime, and the Party feels that punishments should be made more severe.
The Party is also keen to open a referendum on the capital punishment for treason. The Party is not, however, keen that capital punishment be considered for other crimes in the style of the American justice system.


What is the stance of the Party on employment?

The Party is keen that unemployment be kept as low as possible.
The Party is also keen that employers and employees respect one another to a greater extent, and the Party feels that one thing preventing this is the average level of payment to employees. The Party is keen that legislation to improve wages be introduced and that, in return, legislation to ensure proper employee conduct be introduced.



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The Party feels that a check on the power of individual nations in the United Nations should be placed and that the United Kingdom is perfectly positioned to take on such a role.
Why is the UN held in such high esteem? It is a meeting place for crooks and tyrants. OK, there has to be some forum in which to discuss international affairs but let's not invest it with any moral authority. Besides, it is real power that counts. As Stalin once remarked when told that the Pope would disapprove: "How many divisions has the Pope?"

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The Party is most emphatically for further development in and integration into the Commonwealth of Nations.
The Party feels that Britain and other members of the Commonwealth can relate to one another in a more agreeable manner than to nations not currently members.
The Party feels that Britain and the Commonwealth could, with the aid of their strong historical and cultural ties, engage themselves in becoming active economic and international partners and could potentially change the course of events on the global scale for the better in many situations.
Unfortunately, Commonwealth ties and loyalties have largely vanished.

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What is the stance of the Party on the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation?

The Party is neutral on this point and feels that all issues relating to this point must be considered individually on their merits and flaws.
You cannot be neutral on the fundamental issues of defence. NATO is the backbone of our present defence strategy, made all the more important by the complete failure of post-war governments to provide adequately for our defence needs (thus making us more dependent than ever on US support).

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The Party errs towards a distancing of the the United Kingdom from the United States of America.
See previous comment on NATO. It is essential for the UK and the Western world in general that our alliance is maintained.

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The Party is convinced that on many occasions in the past the United States of America has proven itself to have no interest in British affairs, nor any intention of aiding in supporting British maintenance and protection of those interests. The Party feels that this is unfair to the United Kingdom, which has often aided the United States of America in maintaining and protecting American interests and in the protection of the United States of America's allies' interests.
The Party is prepared to reconsider its stance should the United States of America revise its policy towards the United Kingdom.
Unfair in historical terms. True, the US has often pursued its interests and these have on occasion clashed with the UK's interests. However, we have also been allies together in some of the more significant struggles and many thousands of American lives have been lost fighting wars in Europe. Just as significantly, the US more or less guaranteed the defence of Western Europe throughout the Cold War.

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The Party is for increasing the strength of the British military in all three services.
Something we can agree on.

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The Party is for the maintenance and improvement of current British nuclear strength. However, the Party is also aware of the problems that nuclear armaments can bring and is keen that all nuclear powers, the United Kingdom included, should endeavour to decrease reserves of nuclear armaments to, if not a non-existent strength, then at least to a reasonably low level consistent with national security and the countering of hostile armaments.
The British nuclear deterrent is already very limited. I would be in favour of increasing our deterrent capability.

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The Party is keen that unemployment be kept as low as possible.
The Party is also keen that employers and employees respect one another to a greater extent, and the Party feels that one thing preventing this is the average level of payment to employees. The Party is keen that legislation to improve wages be introduced and that, in return, legislation to ensure proper employee conduct be introduced.
Leave it to the market. The more you interfere the more likely it is that businesses will think it is not worth the candle investing in the UK. That means more unemployment, which goes against your initial point.
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