perspective as regards death

Feldoon · 08-02-2007, 02:23 PM

What limits would these be and under what reasoning would they exist?

mkpdavies · 08-02-2007, 02:23 PM

They tried banning it and it just meant the criminals took other and killed the mother aswell as the foetus.

Westcountryman · 08-02-2007, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Feldoon

What limits would these be and under what reasoning would they exist?

Basically, abortion should really only occur where the pregnancy would put the mother at risk - physically or mentally. I'd also consider allowing the 'morning after pill'. But once the pregnancy starts shifting along and the foetus starts developing abortions on non-medical grounds shouldn't occur. Alternatives should also be considered/implemented before abortion where possible and practical.

Discretion should reside with the physician.

Feldoon · 08-02-2007, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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What limits would these be and under what reasoning would they exist?

Basically, abortion should really only occur where the pregnancy would put the mother at risk - physically or mentally.

But why?

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I'd also consider allowing the 'morning after pill'. But once the pregnancy starts shifting along and the foetus starts developing abortions on non-medical grounds shouldn't occur. Alternatives should also be considered/implemented before abortion where possible and practical.

Oh, I agree, abortion shouldn't be the first port and call of 'contraception', but that won't make me side with people wanting it highly restricted.

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Discretion should reside with the physician.

Possibly.

This-England · 08-02-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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The procedure of abortion being that which enables the woman to do as she wishes with her uterus.

Outlawing abortion or having it very tightly controlled is pretty much akin to state control of a woman's uterus.

No it's not, it's control of the procedure. That is subsequently may affect a woman's 'choice' is a mere secondary factor. If the woman doesn't want a baby, she either abstains or takes the risk of engaging in sexual intercourse using contraception. If she then ends up pregnant, that's her fault. Whatever happened to taking responsibility for your actions?

Abortion should always be a last resort and should always have strict limits on its use.

Abortion and Euthanasia should be part of a National Eugenics campaign to improve the stock of the population.
We should make a start with the sterilisation of Paedophiles.

The Christians say human life is Sacred yet it’s not a human life till it’s born and even then if it has defects the parents should have the option to terminate the child.
Doesn’t the bible say God made man in his image?
Does that include the retarded and the deformed?

This-England · 08-02-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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Originally Posted by Feldoon

What limits would these be and under what reasoning would they exist?

Basically, abortion should really only occur where the pregnancy would put the mother at risk - physically or mentally. I'd also consider allowing the 'morning after pill'. But once the pregnancy starts shifting along and the foetus starts developing abortions on non-medical grounds shouldn't occur. Alternatives should also be considered/implemented before abortion where possible and practical.

Discretion should reside with the physician.

We would have many unwanted and uncared for children if we banned abortion.
I know at least half a dozen girls who have had abortions.
Some are to young and would make bad mothers.
Others aren’t ready for children yet.
If we want to improve society and the individuals within it we must have abortion.

Feldoon · 08-02-2007, 02:42 PM

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Abortion and Euthanasia should be part of a National Eugenics campaign to improve the stock of the population.
We should make a start with the sterilisation of Paedophiles.

What I really hope is they prove unwarranted discrimination is hereditary.

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The Christians say human life is Sacred yet it’s not a human life till it’s born and even then if it has defects the parents should have the option to terminate the child.

That's infanticide and is the unlawful killing of a living human being.

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Doesn’t the bible say God made man in his image?
Does that include the retarded and the deformed?

I'd say so.

Westcountryman · 08-02-2007, 02:45 PM

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The Christians say human life is Sacred yet it’s not a human life till it’s born

In your opinion. Other people think otherwise.

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Does that include the retarded and the deformed?

All people are equal in his eyes and He loves us all dearly.

Marielitai · 08-02-2007, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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Originally Posted by Feldoon

What limits would these be and under what reasoning would they exist?

Basically, abortion should really only occur where the pregnancy would put the mother at risk - physically or mentally.

If I had a baby, my physical well-being would be threatened by financial problems. The stress levels would increase, threatening my mental health. Is this good enough for you?

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I'd also consider allowing the 'morning after pill'. But once the pregnancy starts shifting along and the foetus starts developing abortions on non-medical grounds shouldn't occur.

What about rape? The morning after pill is not 100% effective.

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Alternatives should also be considered/implemented before abortion where possible and practical.

Discretion should reside with the physician.

Discretion should reside with the posessor of the uterus containing the foetus.

rjt · 08-02-2007, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ModernUKIP

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The Christians say human life is Sacred yet it’s not a human life till it’s born

In your opinion. Other people think otherwise.

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Does that include the retarded and the deformed?

All people are equal in his eyes and He loves us all dearly.

very well put, retarded and deformed are just words man has used to describe diffrence, a child of God is what we all are.

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Feldoon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,003	What limits would these be and under what reasoning would they exist?