Government Jobs in Todays Times cost Taxpayer £4,342,000

Chip · 04-02-2007, 05:06 PM

There are 35 Government Jobs advertised in todays Sunday Times. These range from NHS Chief Exec.@ £140,000 p.a. (Swansea), Director of Development £108,000 p.a. (Pembroke C.C.), Programme Directors (London Development Agency. RED KEN :twisted: ) £80,000 p.a. Director of HR. NHS. North Bristol.£90,000 p.a. Warrington Borough Council. Strategic Director :?: £100,000. p.a. to Cabinet Office :?: :?: Non Exec. Chair £50,000.Board Members £25,000, Chief Executive £90,000.
The total cost of all the salaries without national insurance , pensions, expenses, perks, car allowances etc.etc.is a frightning £3,766,000.Plus they are mostly advertised through a recruitment agency so add another £376,000 costs to the above sum. Plus the cost of the advertisments add another £200,000. TOTAL £4,342,000 :evil: Yet I can not see any job advertised that is worth anything like these salaries and many of them seem to be jobs for the boys.
This is one days advertising. Now you know where Browns money is going. Plus what will these all cost us in 10 years time?

mkpdavies · 04-02-2007, 05:19 PM

You wouldn't mind if you thought they would make a big difference.

This planks will just do as they are told and pass messages down to the plebs.

Akria · 06-02-2007, 06:18 PM

*sighs*
And what difference do you think that money is going to make even if it were released for other purposes?
I believe very much so that government members need a massive reduction in their salaries, but the point is that £4,000,000 is a relatively small amount. Consider that hundreds upon thousands upon thousands of millions of pounds are handled by our Government; running a country is EXPENSIVE.
Yes, the salaries are massively high.
But it won't make much difference.

Akria

Akria · 06-02-2007, 06:26 PM

Another thing:
Those salaries are per annum, so it's horribly inaccurate to use them as examples as you did. And in any case, I've never heard of advertising being nearly that much for anything.
What I mean is that your thread title is implying that the day's advertisements alone cost £4,000,000 or so.

Akria

Chip · 06-02-2007, 09:01 PM

1.But they did. Because next week, like last week and the week before, you will see the same thing again.In fact the situation has grown over the last 10 years to horrendous proportions.What are these people doing? Why did we not need them before the miracle of Blair / Brown?
2.My point is simple. We, the taxpayer , can not afford this now and future generations have nothing that will generate real wealth to pay for it.Not one of the jobs advertised generates money (profit) so these costs are a nett loss . Someone will have to face this one day and sort it out.
3. Anyone have any bright ideas?

Besoeker · 06-02-2007, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip

Yet I can not see any job advertised that is worth anything like these salaries

So how much should the going rate be for the NHS Chief Exec post?

Chip · 06-02-2007, 11:50 PM

Please tell me what he/she does first. Whatever it is do we really need one for each NHS Trust? In theory Hospital managment / admin is all the same.

Besoeker · 07-02-2007, 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip

Please tell me what he/she does first.

If you don't know what the position involves, you can't know that the salary offered is too much. Or too little.

Akria · 07-02-2007, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chip

1.But they did. Because next week, like last week and the week before, you will see the same thing again.In fact the situation has grown over the last 10 years to horrendous proportions.What are these people doing? Why did we not need them before the miracle of Blair / Brown?
2.My point is simple. We, the taxpayer , can not afford this now and future generations have nothing that will generate real wealth to pay for it.Not one of the jobs advertised generates money (profit) so these costs are a nett loss . Someone will have to face this one day and sort it out.
3. Anyone have any bright ideas?

We, the taxpayer, cannot afford this now? Have you ANY IDEA how stupid that sounds?
There are sixty million people in the UK. Even assuming twenty million of these don't pay tax, that still leaves forty million people to pay a mere four million pounds. That works out as about ten pence per taxpayer.
Also, what if I became a university lecturer in Philosophy? Am I generating any profit? No? Does that mean that it's a bad job? No.

Akria

Chip · 07-02-2007, 07:29 PM

What do you mean ONLY £4 million pounds? Have you any idea how hard people have to work to get £4M? and then give it to a load of overpaid pen pushers. First think how many underworked, overpaid government employees there are now. Then think every week we are adding £4,000,000 to the annual bill. If you think that £4,000,000 is nothing then how do you expect to change anything? (Left wing loonies think like that).

I dont remember any teaching jobs being advertised so your point is mislaid on me. Did I say teachers of any kind were of no use?

Besoeker.
I do know what the job entails and I know its not worth the advertised rate.No I'm not in the NHS.

04-02-2007, 05:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Chip Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North West UK Posts: 598	Government Jobs in Todays Times cost Taxpayer £4,342,000 There are 35 Government Jobs advertised in todays Sunday Times. These range from NHS Chief Exec.@ £140,000 p.a. (Swansea), Director of Development £108,000 p.a. (Pembroke C.C.), Programme Directors (London Development Agency. RED KEN :twisted: ) £80,000 p.a. Director of HR. NHS. North Bristol.£90,000 p.a. Warrington Borough Council. Strategic Director :?: £100,000. p.a. to Cabinet Office :?: :?: Non Exec. Chair £50,000.Board Members £25,000, Chief Executive £90,000. The total cost of all the salaries without national insurance , pensions, expenses, perks, car allowances etc.etc.is a frightning £3,766,000.Plus they are mostly advertised through a recruitment agency so add another £376,000 costs to the above sum. Plus the cost of the advertisments add another £200,000. TOTAL £4,342,000 :evil: Yet I can not see any job advertised that is worth anything like these salaries and many of them seem to be jobs for the boys. This is one days advertising. Now you know where Browns money is going. Plus what will these all cost us in 10 years time?

04-02-2007, 05:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
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06-02-2007, 06:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
Akria Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Grimsby, NELincs Posts: 2,477 Party: None	sighs And what difference do you think that money is going to make even if it were released for other purposes? I believe very much so that government members need a massive reduction in their salaries, but the point is that £4,000,000 is a relatively small amount. Consider that hundreds upon thousands upon thousands of millions of pounds are handled by our Government; running a country is EXPENSIVE. Yes, the salaries are massively high. But it won't make much difference. Akria __________________ I am getting very tired of people not reading my posts properly. Please do not reply to me unless you are sure you have not missed out the key points I am making and key words I am using. http://real-democracy.co.uk \| Admin and proud The commonality of mankind: If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die?

06-02-2007, 06:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Akria Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Grimsby, NELincs Posts: 2,477 Party: None	Another thing: Those salaries are per annum, so it's horribly inaccurate to use them as examples as you did. And in any case, I've never heard of advertising being nearly that much for anything. What I mean is that your thread title is implying that the day's advertisements alone cost £4,000,000 or so. Akria __________________ I am getting very tired of people not reading my posts properly. Please do not reply to me unless you are sure you have not missed out the key points I am making and key words I am using. http://real-democracy.co.uk \| Admin and proud The commonality of mankind: If you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die?

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06-02-2007, 09:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
Chip Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North West UK Posts: 598	1.But they did. Because next week, like last week and the week before, you will see the same thing again.In fact the situation has grown over the last 10 years to horrendous proportions.What are these people doing? Why did we not need them before the miracle of Blair / Brown? 2.My point is simple. We, the taxpayer , can not afford this now and future generations have nothing that will generate real wealth to pay for it.Not one of the jobs advertised generates money (profit) so these costs are a nett loss . Someone will have to face this one day and sort it out. 3. Anyone have any bright ideas?

06-02-2007, 11:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Chip Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North West UK Posts: 598	Please tell me what he/she does first. Whatever it is do we really need one for each NHS Trust? In theory Hospital managment / admin is all the same.

07-02-2007, 07:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
Chip Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: North West UK Posts: 598	What do you mean ONLY £4 million pounds? Have you any idea how hard people have to work to get £4M? and then give it to a load of overpaid pen pushers. First think how many underworked, overpaid government employees there are now. Then think every week we are adding £4,000,000 to the annual bill. If you think that £4,000,000 is nothing then how do you expect to change anything? (Left wing loonies think like that). I dont remember any teaching jobs being advertised so your point is mislaid on me. Did I say teachers of any kind were of no use? Besoeker. I do know what the job entails and I know its not worth the advertised rate.No I'm not in the NHS.