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You say people are born homosexual.

Are people born paedophiles or Zoophiles too?

Tony Bennett

It's really great to know how well my Council tax is being spent in Essex in promoting crime reduction and getting crime detected and criminals convicted.

I'm on the Essex Police e-mail alerts and have just received this wonderful invitation (reproduced verbatim). If you go into Harlow Police station, you can pick up a leaflet (well you could until my recent visit there, anyway) which tells you how to join local groups especially for transgendered folk, who meet at a hotel in Chelmsford once a month for...whatever. Plus news of other gay and lesbian organisations and gay hotlines and details of how to report homophobic incidents etc. etc. (for all I know this posting may be logged as one such).

It's such joyous news that Essex Police are promoting this group - just think: 'focussing on transgender' - at last!!! - with such gay abandon. Thank you, Essex Police:

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Essex Police NewsLine

Essex Police embraces diversity in new exhibition

By Tina Starling

To help raise awareness and understanding of diversity issues, Essex Police Museum and NEXUS have mounted a new exhibition on the subject of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender (LGBT) issues.

The exhibition will chart the major milestones in the evolution of gay rights over the years which will be represented in a graphical timeline.

The exhibition, which will be based in the museum at force headquarters in Chelmsford runs on Wednesday afternoons throughout February between 1:00-4:00pm.

Nexus provides Essex Police with an LGBT centre of excellence for issues affecting its workforce, while also being heavily involved in providing welfare support to staff, and policy generation.

The combination of these efforts has resulted in heightened awareness and understanding of the LGBT community within Essex Police and in the communities it serves.

There will also be a series of posters along with displays focussing on transgender and the recently introduced civil partnerships.

Admission to this exhibition is free.

January 29, 2007

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Feldoon

For the most part, the evidence points to it.

Given that both areas are very taboo, it's highly unlikely that anybody would "choose" to be attracted to children or beasts. So yes, I think so.

However due to their taboo nature, they haven't been sufficiently researched.

Phagocyte

The crux really isn't whether someone is born homosexual or heterosexual or whatever. It's whether it ends up being a choice, like whether to eat chicken or turkey for dinner.

Paedophilia: Likely not a choice.
Zoophilia: Probably not either, but I'm lacking significant information on that.

mkpdavies

I am hardwired/programmed a hetrosexual. I have know this from a young age.

I don't see why we should think other sexualities are any different.

Paedos are in a shitty position, in they probably can't help the way they feel, but they sure as hell know that enacting their feelings is not on.

Some hetro males rape women too, which again totally isn't on, no matter how ugly they are.

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Feldoon

It also doesn't help with the social stigma around them.

"You have a sexual attraction towards children? Lock you up for thought-crime! Eww eww eww!"

I think it was best described by Cap'n Jack on Torchwood; "You people and your quaint little categories"

blank_frackis

I agree, I would say most preferences - not even sexuality, you can say the same about food - for the main part stem from birth, with perhaps some impact from environmental factors at a young age. You don't need to have a degree to work out that males being attracted to females and vice versa is caused primarily by hormones and other factors occurring naturally, so why other sexualities are treated differently I'm not sure. If you take that to its logical extreme concerning paedophiles you're going into the territory of thought crimes where it would be legitimate to lock someone up simply because they have a sexual preference for children.

Mikeuk

So why are we being told to be tolerant of gays and extremely intolerant of paedophiles.

I believe that paedophiles need 'help' rather than a lynching, although that help may involve locking them up for life.

Of course homosexuality is not on a par with paedophilia, but it's more like racism or smoking. It can have a negative effect on those involved with it (HIV/AIDS, high suicide rate, multiple partners, high rates of STD etc) and therefore a negative effect on society. It should therefore not be promoted as a positive good.

The 'default position' for years has been that Homosexuality between consenting adults is legal but generally looked upon with disfavour.

I se no reason for that to change.

Feldoon

Because, as I said, the issue is still taboo.

As long as they're understanding that their sexual attraction musn't be acted upon within our society, they don't need locking up. That's thought-crime.

Homosexuality =/= Act.
Homosexual relationships, however, are just as healthy as heterosexual ones.

Only legal is a necessary.

And the reason the social view should be changed is so that people aren't ashamed or feel oppression over being homosexual.

rjt

A very sensible position to take, there are huge risks associated with homosexual activity, some of which you have illustrated here.