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View Poll Results: What would the best economic policy be for Britain to pursue if Britain withdrew from the EU?
Apply to join European Free Trade Area (EFTA) 2 10.00%
Apply to join North American Free Trade Area (NAFTA) 0 0%
Most Favoured Nation - agreements with who we want 10 50.00%
Attempt to from Commonwealth Free Trade Area (or greater links with Commonwealth) 6 30.00%
Better agreements with India and China 0 0%
Other (please state) 2 10.00%
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Old 18-01-2007, 08:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Most Favoured Nation - agreements with who we want is by far the best option which ive argued for in another thread.

The Commonwealth option may have a certain Imperial appeal but it would be a disaster.
There is no way we could compete with India in terms of Wages and Production costs.
Why would the Commonwealth be an economic disaster for the UK? Without British exports to the Commonwealth and USA, we (the UK) would be bankrupt if relied on EU trade alone. It is the EU which has been the disaster.
The EU accounts for more than fifty per cent of Britain’s trade in goods and services, while eight of Britain’s top ten trading partners are in Europe (the others being Canada and the US).
What proof do you have for your claim that the EU accounts for over half of the UK's trade in goods and services?

I take it you are against the UK being in the EU, by the way? I don't see too many criticism of the EU from you of late.
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Old 18-01-2007, 08:42 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Most the Commonwealth countries despise us.
Which is what you would expect from people we conquered.
I don't believe that is true in general (if at all).

It's an argument used by europhiles to promote the EU quite often.

Another reason why I am sure it is not true.

Our priority - above all else - is to the British people and to UK colonies and territories around the world.

And to those sixteen Commonwealth countries who share our Head of State, Her Majesty The Queen. And then to the Commonwealth in general.
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Most the Commonwealth countries despise us.
Which is what you would expect from people we conquered.
I don't believe that is true in general (if at all).

It's an argument used by europhiles to promote the EU quite often.

Another reason why I am sure it is not true.

Our priority - above all else - is to the British people and to UK colonies and territories around the world.

And to those sixteen Commonwealth countries who share our Head of State, Her Majesty The Queen. And then to the Commonwealth in general.
Dont be so naive.
They really do detest us.
Just look at our nearest former collony Ireland.
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Old 18-01-2007, 09:17 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Most the Commonwealth countries despise us.
Which is what you would expect from people we conquered.
I don't believe that is true in general (if at all).

It's an argument used by europhiles to promote the EU quite often.

Another reason why I am sure it is not true.

Our priority - above all else - is to the British people and to UK colonies and territories around the world.

And to those sixteen Commonwealth countries who share our Head of State, Her Majesty The Queen. And then to the Commonwealth in general.
Dont be so naive.
They really do detest us.
Just look at our nearest former collony Ireland.
Naive is not something I have been accused of before.

As for Ireland. I assume you mean the Irish Republic.

And the Irish Republic is not in the Commonwealth - it left it in 1948.

Incidentally This England, there has been talk in recent years that the Irish Republic may re-join the Commonwealth.

Mozambique (a former Portuguese) colony joined the Commonwealth a few years ago. Hardly a sign of them detesting the British as you claim is the case in the Commonwealth.

India doesn't detest us. And we don't detest them.

India buys many British military aircraft in preference to purchasing from other EU nations.
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Most the Commonwealth countries despise us.
Which is what you would expect from people we conquered.
I don't believe that is true in general (if at all).

It's an argument used by europhiles to promote the EU quite often.

Another reason why I am sure it is not true.

Our priority - above all else - is to the British people and to UK colonies and territories around the world.

And to those sixteen Commonwealth countries who share our Head of State, Her Majesty The Queen. And then to the Commonwealth in general.
Dont be so naive.
They really do detest us.
Just look at our nearest former collony Ireland.
Naive is not something I have been accused of before.

As for Ireland. I assume you mean the Irish Republic.

And the Irish Republic is not in the Commonwealth - it left it in 1948.

Incidentally This England, there has been talk in recent years that the Irish Republic may re-join the Commonwealth.

Mozambique (a former Portuguese) colony joined the Commonwealth a few years ago. Hardly a sign of them detesting the British as you claim is the case in the Commonwealth.

India doesn't detest us. And we don't detest them.

India buys many British military aircraft in preference to purchasing from other EU nations.
I didnt say Ireland was in the Commonwealth.
I said it was a former collony.
As for India half their Bollywood films and Culture is about their fight against the British.
We are always the badies in their movies.
As with their opinions on Suez, the Falklands, Trade with South Africa etc they have always took the chance to stick it to their former Colonial masters when ever they can.
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Most the Commonwealth countries despise us.
Which is what you would expect from people we conquered.
I don't believe that is true in general (if at all).

And to those sixteen Commonwealth countries who share our Head of State, Her Majesty The Queen. And then to the Commonwealth in general.
Dont be so naive.
They really do detest us.
Just look at our nearest former collony Ireland.
Naive is not something I have been accused of before.

As for Ireland. I assume you mean the Irish Republic.

And the Irish Republic is not in the Commonwealth - it left it in 1948.

Incidentally This England, there has been talk in recent years that the Irish Republic may re-join the Commonwealth.

India doesn't detest us. And we don't detest them.

India buys many British military aircraft in preference to purchasing from other EU nations.
I didnt say Ireland was in the Commonwealth.
I said it was a former collony.
As for India half their Bollywood films and Culture is about their fight against the British.
We are always the badies in their movies.
As with their opinions on Suez, the Falklands, Trade with South Africa etc they have always took the chance to stick it to their former Colonial masters when ever they can.
You mentioned Ireland (the Irish Republic) in the context of a discussion about YOUR claim that the Commonwealth detests us.

I was right to point out that it was in the Commonwealth. Then left it. And now - according to numerous reports in recent years - is seriously considering joining it again.

Please provide the names of some 'Bollywood' films in which we (the British) are depicted as the 'baddies'.

You also claim that India takes the chance to "stick it in regarding their former colonial master". Examples and links please, if you would so kind.
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I voted 'other'. Trade with everyone, but set up free trade or similar agreements with others on a case by case basis where this is in our national interest.

Use tarrif barriers where we judge this necessary.
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I voted 'other'. Trade with everyone, but set up free trade or similar agreements with others on a case by case basis where this is in our national interest.

Use tarrif barriers where we judge this necessary.
You could well be right. We could set up new free trade agreements as you say EU Blues. Or we could be a member of both NAFTA and EFTA. The two could be merged, of course.

I think alot of people would just vote "anything but the EU" if there was such a category in the poll :twisted: .
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Most the Commonwealth countries despise us.
Which is what you would expect from people we conquered.
I don't believe that is true in general (if at all).

And to those sixteen Commonwealth countries who share our Head of State, Her Majesty The Queen. And then to the Commonwealth in general.
Dont be so naive.
They really do detest us.
Just look at our nearest former collony Ireland.
Naive is not something I have been accused of before.

As for Ireland. I assume you mean the Irish Republic.

And the Irish Republic is not in the Commonwealth - it left it in 1948.

Incidentally This England, there has been talk in recent years that the Irish Republic may re-join the Commonwealth.

India doesn't detest us. And we don't detest them.

India buys many British military aircraft in preference to purchasing from other EU nations.
I didnt say Ireland was in the Commonwealth.
I said it was a former collony.
As for India half their Bollywood films and Culture is about their fight against the British.
We are always the badies in their movies.
As with their opinions on Suez, the Falklands, Trade with South Africa etc they have always took the chance to stick it to their former Colonial masters when ever they can.
You mentioned Ireland (the Irish Republic) in the context of a discussion about YOUR claim that the Commonwealth detests us.

I was right to point out that it was in the Commonwealth. Then left it. And now - according to numerous reports in recent years - is seriously considering joining it again.

Please provide the names of some 'Bollywood' films in which we (the British) are depicted as the 'baddies'.

You also claim that India takes the chance to "stick it in regarding their former colonial master". Examples and links please, if you would so kind.
Im sick of wasting my time finding links for people on here who cant be bothered to educate themselves.

"Most the Commonwealth countries despise us.
Which is what you would expect from people we conquered."

My quote above points out that people we conquered hate us which is nearly all the Commonwealth except the British settler countries.

On the other points they have been hundreds of Bollywood films where the British are badies im sure if you look online you will find them.

If you go look up India's or most non-White Commonwealth opinion on the Suez crisis, the Falklands war etc you will see it was very anti-British.
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