noachian

I wouldn't go so far as to say I was a Nationalist.....well then again I suppose I would be willing to fight for my country as long as it was for the right cause, would I think Nationalist is one step up from a Patriot. However I would rather have the BNP as our local chairmen than dreaded Labour.

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SilverFalcon

I'm a libertarian too, but unfortunately not only did Libertarianism get poisoned by the left it also became a synonym for "Liberal". It is not a synonym for "Liberal" today. And you do get various leanings of Libertarian.

I am a right leaning libertarian and not a Liberal. I think this kind of libertarian now needs a new name. Because we are from the Conservative family tree but have evolved into a modern world view embracing liberty for all peoples and freedom of cultural expression, etc, plus flexible trade policies and political expression through the independent nation state, and because we are all worried about what "Democrat" is doing to political ideologies that basically embrace liberty and equality before the law, separation of church and state, etc, we need a new way of defining ourselves.

I would be an English nationalist (what they first called themselves) as this is what I have always been but then, this tends to include the libertarian ideal, but not, as it has become manifest today, the left leaning ideology of multiculturalism. Multiculturalism is not a libertarian ideal, or rather, it is a distorted ideal in itself and has ceased to mean anything at all to anyone except those who keep trying to institute it and implement its ideology among a left wing coterie of classical liberals and new age universalists.

Increasingly, people are beginning to become as individual about the way they describe their political ideologies as they are about the way they see themselves. And this can, and has, led to a lack of enthusiasm for voting and genuine political evolution.

Westcountryman

Should update this - I'm much more Libertarian these days. Our current government is a prime example of what s**t can occur when the government imposes its social policies on the populace. Leave us alone!

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spaman

Very interesting and a subject I have much sympathy with - More people would be libertarians if they really had a clear understanding of what it was...and how different it was from liberal etc...

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SilverFalcon

I agree. I think there would be so much common ground in some new definition that it may actually cause a large group of individuals to get into position to do something about voter apathy. All good folk need is a minimum number of basic principles in common and you have the opportunity for change. Kicking shins over details has always been a waste of time. There will always be the arguments over how to tie a knot and which end of the haystack to start searching from, but these really don't matter in a situation as dire as the present one.

It is my dream that somehow someone will be able to create such a unity of purpose and ideology - soon.

Like The Roman

I am a Nationalist, but voted 'other' as the term has been hijacked by the SNP and thus has lost its meaning - as I see it the SNP are internationalist, favouring mass-immigration and multiculturalism. Hhhmmm...

I now consider myself to be an ethno-nationalist.

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Like The Roman

The English Democrats are simply the English version of the SNP...

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SilverFalcon

What about "eco-nationalist" in the sense that nation states make sustainability models a principal feature of their policies? This approach is not a nazi idea, as so many seem to think it is. It has a wide range of supporters and is an idea that many people the world over would support in principle.

Surely if a sovereign nation state is first and foremost made responsible for its population growth, its utilization of raw materials, its trade in raw materials and its manufacturing and export as well as its utilization of the environment then many of the problems encountered when poorer countries are unfairly matched against so-called rich ones would disappear.

Prosperity is directly linked to capability, or should be. Many "developing" countries are not developing but sliding back into stone age like conditions topped with foreign aid sustained oligarchies. Would green nationalism not be better for these, instead of the constant handout syndrome attached to the concomitant guilt trip foisted on the developed nations?

Much of the world's poverty and inequality is the result of a lack of attention to people's needs and environmental capability in terms of meeting these needs. Green nationalism tends to imply region specific responsibility rather than solutions dreamed up in a big building that looks like an upended coffin somewhere far away from the trouble spots.

It would transform extant international economic policies and so isn't popular. People find it easier to accuse individuals of racism rather than to look at the potential region specific survival strategies transformed into economic and political policies might deliver.

For some countries, this kind of sustainability model could literally save nations from catastrophe and help build new bases on more independent platforms that might have the potential to make them more competitive instead of the present situation where many poor countries are actually being suffocated by costs and logistics problems vis a vis their crop production and manufacturing.

For_England

Conservative (includes nationalism), moderate, and traditional. You know the answer to the second one. Actually as a dual citizen I will be voting in the primaries for RON PAUL, whom a friend of mine is advertising on the free way to the passers by

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If Guilliani wins the nomination, I will either abstain or vote Constitution Party.

For_England

It seems mind-bogling to me that people would support an unsustainable system, stealing the future from our children before they are even born, just because Hitler tried being sustainable. Is this where we have come to in terms of debate today?