The English Democrats?

mkpdavies · 01-01-2007, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by UKIP MAN

THIS SYMBOL Dont look like the EDs want out of the european union!!!!

must add that one to my list

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5v8OaNQPJA

http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/eurounion.php

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The EDP will seek referendum authorisation to decide this country’s future relationship with the E.U. That referendum should include the option of leaving the EU and joining the European Free Trade Association, EFTA, whose countries have a free trade agreement with the EU.

Just get us out NOW....

Good find UKIPMAN, more evidence of the treachery behing the facade.

cassie · 01-01-2007, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Quote:

Originally Posted by UKIP MAN

THIS SYMBOL Dont look like the EDs want out of the european union!!!!

must add that one to my list

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5v8OaNQPJA

http://www.englishdemocrats.org.uk/eurounion.php

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The EDP will seek referendum authorisation to decide this country’s future relationship with the E.U. That referendum should include the option of leaving the EU and joining the European Free Trade Association, EFTA, whose countries have a free trade agreement with the EU.

Just get us out NOW....

Good find UKIPMAN, more evidence of the treachery behing the facade.

Yes, it's a rubbish symbol, if only because it is ambiguous and can convey the wrong impression. It seems to be someone's bright idea of somehow embellishing a long winded statement of policy which latter, despite its unnecessary version of EU history, still omits to express the huge amount of opposition amongst EDP members to continued EU membership.

Even so, it is intemperate for MKP to use expressions such as "the treachery behind the facade". It suggests more of what is undesirable about about the UKIP than what is welcome. Whatever wild assertions are made about the EDP (which, it has to be said, occupies no significant public positions), surely it is appreciated that the real enemy is elsewhere, as I attempted to point out above.

I suppose one might attempt to cast the EDP as some kind of trojan horse, but even this is not really sustainable and, therefore, not credible!

You may accuse the EDP of bringing about a situation which you oppose - unjustifiably in my opinion - but we often think that you are your own worst enemies, and more likely to do so yourselves by aiming your fire at us. All I can say to is the transfer of members from one party to another seems to be only one way at the moment: out of UKIP and frequently to the EDP. Perhaps the kind of extreme and unwarrantedly hostile attitudes to be seen here have something to do with this feature?

Englander 1 · 02-01-2007, 12:12 AM

Mr Davies you need working on Boy!

Why are you so abusive to English Democrats, the current mess within the UK cannot continue and what is so wrong with an English parliament and being proud to be English? The Democrats are not against anyone...we are just putting England First!

mkpdavies · 02-01-2007, 06:46 AM

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Why are you so abusive to English Democrats

Because they are subversive scum, less interested in saving England, more interested in destroying Britain.

arden forester · 02-01-2007, 09:05 AM

cassie rubbishes my point, which was asked in good faith. Then when Ukipman uncovers something, we suddenly get agreement on ambivalence. Wow! Is debate so precious? :?

cassie · 02-01-2007, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by arden forester

cassie rubbishes my point, which was asked in good faith. Then when Ukipman uncovers something, we suddenly get agreement on ambivalence. Wow! Is debate so precious? :?

Wow! So, it seems, is sarcasm!

You chose some unfortunate terms. I do not agree that I 'rubbished' your point. As for your having 'asked' something, I did not see anything in your posting couched in an interrogative form; it was as assertive as this last one of yours.

Bit touchy, aint you?

arden forester · 02-01-2007, 11:55 AM

Well you did rubbish the point. I was trying to find out where the EDP stands. OK, there was no question mark, but I think others got the point. You still haven't answered the point. So I will ask a proper question now!

Is the EDP campaigning for withdrawal or just a referendum? Simple?

Englander 1 · 02-01-2007, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

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Why are you so abusive to English Democrats

Because they are subversive scum, less interested in saving England, more interested in destroying Britain.

Mr Davies, you will rue the day you said that!

The tide is turning..dont fight it!

mkpdavies · 02-01-2007, 12:09 PM

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Mr Davies, you will rue the day you said that!

Ooooh is that a threat. Another attribute to add to the list for the most subversive party in British politics.

The English Democrats are a weak pathetic joke. Always have been, always will be.

If England does ever get a fair deal, it will be someone else who gets it, not the joke party calling themselves the English Democrats.

Hartlepool · 02-01-2007, 01:34 PM

The English Dems are bought and paid for by the Communist European Union who control their agenda,the EDs are the CEUs puppydogs in the UK.

View Poll Results: What are the English Democrats?
Thick?	10	27.03%
Subversives for the EU?	7	18.92%
Right want England to be a separate puppet, rather than a joint puppet?	6	16.22%
Other, please specify.	14	37.84%
Voters: 37. You may not vote on this poll

02-01-2007, 11:55 AM	#97 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,659 Party: None	Well you did rubbish the point. I was trying to find out where the EDP stands. OK, there was no question mark, but I think others got the point. You still haven't answered the point. So I will ask a proper question now! Is the EDP campaigning for withdrawal or just a referendum? Simple? __________________ www.ardenforester.blogspot.com www.westminster-whispers.blogspot.com

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02-01-2007, 12:12 AM	#93 (permalink)
Englander 1 Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: WARWICKSHIRE Posts: 385 Party: English Democrats	Mr Davies you need working on Boy! Why are you so abusive to English Democrats, the current mess within the UK cannot continue and what is so wrong with an English parliament and being proud to be English? The Democrats are not against anyone...we are just putting England First!

02-01-2007, 09:05 AM	#95 (permalink)
arden forester Uber Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Solihull, in The Forest of Arden, Warwickshire! Posts: 2,659 Party: None	cassie rubbishes my point, which was asked in good faith. Then when Ukipman uncovers something, we suddenly get agreement on ambivalence. Wow! Is debate so precious? :?

02-01-2007, 01:34 PM	#100 (permalink)
Hartlepool Uber Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: North East England Posts: 6,639 Party: Other	The English Dems are bought and paid for by the Communist European Union who control their agenda,the EDs are the CEUs puppydogs in the UK.