Political advisor's, PR etc wanted.

IceDragon · 26-11-2005, 07:07 PM

So, explained in simple terms, how easy/expensive is it for someone to get hold of a PR company willing to work with a small potentially successful political group to help them get off the ground? Initially there would be no money, however there is the potential to become awe inspiringly successful as a raw nerve has been identified in British politics.

Also, how easy is it to get potential candidates who have the gift of the gab, are good at answering questions to hostile journalists and have a hunger to get to the top without wanting to take over the show?

Kilroys are not needed, ultra ambitious sociopaths are not wanted, but people who have the ability and don't want to burst the balloon would be welcome.

Money would depend on how well the candidates and others did their jobs, if everyone works together a successful at least 3rd party could be achieved.

A new party, non PC but not extreme, may be starting, it may not depending on the way things go.

Jonathan36 · 27-11-2005, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by IceDragon

A new party, non PC but not extreme, may be starting, it may not depending on the way things go.

Is this really necessary? It is senseless to have countless little parties who think they all have the right idea. Rather support the established parties with sound policies, like the BNP and UKIP.

Alex McKee · 27-11-2005, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonathan36

Is this really necessary? It is senseless to have countless little parties who think they all have the right idea. Rather support the established parties with sound policies, like the BNP and UKIP.

I think that needs correcting -

"Rather support the established parties with sound policies, like UKIP."

There'ya go.

IceDragon · 28-11-2005, 11:26 AM

It depends. There is a positive role which could be played by such a party. If it addressed the need for tough law and order, a robust policy on illegal immigration terrorism and recognised the existence of and included ethnic minorities in it's policies. I think there is a need for a party which means less government interference and to end the illegal occupation by the EU in our country.

These are the first tentative steps of a new idea of a new way of doing politics. Whatever, if ever it happens it should not be remotely like any other party. The people involved should not be politicians, UKIP, Conservative, New Labour, sorry about being cynical but the politicians of most of the parties we have are all more or less the same, clones with different suits, that's how I see it anyway. There isn't really anything to be inspired by anyone these days.

What is needed is something to inspire people, plain speaking, no slick politician-speak, no ambiguous answers, just straight from the hip.

mkpdavies · 28-11-2005, 11:41 AM

Are you going to call it Veritas?

IceDragon · 28-11-2005, 01:10 PM

Veritas are trying to be little clones of the larger parties. It's not much good doing that, no one can fight all that money on their own terms.

mkpdavies · 28-11-2005, 01:21 PM

They set out with, near as damn it, the exact same mission statement as you did.

They even called their party Truth!

It all turned out to be a cabal lording it over the plebs as usual though. The very same thing the same cabal accused UKIP of.

Ironic.

John Carter · 28-11-2005, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by IceDragon

sociopaths are not wanted

I guess that lets me out then.

IceDragon · 28-11-2005, 04:40 PM

I don't think for one thing there should be a leader, or a head figure, that should be one of the basic rules.

mkpdavies · 28-11-2005, 04:43 PM

Sheeple like leaders!

Really they do! They like to have a SPOB (single point of blame)!

Perhaps your party could have a pretend leader, with all the real power behind the scenes, a bit like the USA does.

26-11-2005, 07:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
IceDragon Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,048	Political advisor's, PR etc wanted. So, explained in simple terms, how easy/expensive is it for someone to get hold of a PR company willing to work with a small potentially successful political group to help them get off the ground? Initially there would be no money, however there is the potential to become awe inspiringly successful as a raw nerve has been identified in British politics. Also, how easy is it to get potential candidates who have the gift of the gab, are good at answering questions to hostile journalists and have a hunger to get to the top without wanting to take over the show? Kilroys are not needed, ultra ambitious sociopaths are not wanted, but people who have the ability and don't want to burst the balloon would be welcome. Money would depend on how well the candidates and others did their jobs, if everyone works together a successful at least 3rd party could be achieved. A new party, non PC but not extreme, may be starting, it may not depending on the way things go.

28-11-2005, 11:41 AM	#5 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,181 Party: Libertarian Party	Are you going to call it Veritas? __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

28-11-2005, 01:21 PM	#7 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,181 Party: Libertarian Party	They set out with, near as damn it, the exact same mission statement as you did. They even called their party Truth! It all turned out to be a cabal lording it over the plebs as usual though. The very same thing the same cabal accused UKIP of. Ironic. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

28-11-2005, 04:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,181 Party: Libertarian Party	Sheeple like leaders! Really they do! They like to have a SPOB (single point of blame)! Perhaps your party could have a pretend leader, with all the real power behind the scenes, a bit like the USA does. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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28-11-2005, 11:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
IceDragon Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,048	It depends. There is a positive role which could be played by such a party. If it addressed the need for tough law and order, a robust policy on illegal immigration terrorism and recognised the existence of and included ethnic minorities in it's policies. I think there is a need for a party which means less government interference and to end the illegal occupation by the EU in our country. These are the first tentative steps of a new idea of a new way of doing politics. Whatever, if ever it happens it should not be remotely like any other party. The people involved should not be politicians, UKIP, Conservative, New Labour, sorry about being cynical but the politicians of most of the parties we have are all more or less the same, clones with different suits, that's how I see it anyway. There isn't really anything to be inspired by anyone these days. What is needed is something to inspire people, plain speaking, no slick politician-speak, no ambiguous answers, just straight from the hip.

28-11-2005, 01:10 PM	#6 (permalink)
IceDragon Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,048	Veritas are trying to be little clones of the larger parties. It's not much good doing that, no one can fight all that money on their own terms.

28-11-2005, 04:40 PM	#9 (permalink)
IceDragon Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,048	I don't think for one thing there should be a leader, or a head figure, that should be one of the basic rules.