Matt 15:22-26

mkpdavies · 18-11-2005, 11:24 PM

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22: And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, [thou] Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

23: But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

24: But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

25: Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

26: But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast [it] to dogs.

Translation: A non-Jew came to Jesus for help and he wasn't interested, and referred to non-Jews as 'dogs'

Any Christian types care to explain this blatant racism from Jesus.

Oliver · 18-11-2005, 11:45 PM

Hello There Matt,
You have a gift!!!. As one of those "types" I give you an answer you deserve, from earlier in Matthews Gospel. Make of it what you will.
(Matt 7:6) "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you".

mkpdavies · 18-11-2005, 11:55 PM

Was Matt a reliable source?

Or was he the Robbie Williams of the band.

Oliver · 19-11-2005, 12:58 AM

Let us hope he wasn't the MKP Davies of it. thats all.

B.A.Ware · 19-11-2005, 01:35 AM

Cant believe for one second Matt has been reading the bible :shock:
And if you do read it we should all be stoned to death for working on the Sabbath :shock:

Oliver · 19-11-2005, 01:43 AM

Sorry BA, I am not a Jew, my sabbath is from 00.01 hours to 24.00 hours Sunday = The Lord'sDay)

John Carter · 19-11-2005, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

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22: And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, [thou] Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

23: But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.

24: But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

25: Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.

26: But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast [it] to dogs.

Translation: A non-Jew came to Jesus for help and he wasn't interested, and referred to non-Jews as 'dogs'

Any Christian types care to explain this blatant racism from Jesus.

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27: And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.

28: Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

Faith test. Easy really.

mkpdavies · 19-11-2005, 12:08 PM

Better answer.

Thank's JC.

I quite often read bits of the bible, there is some good stuff in it.

B.A.Ware · 19-11-2005, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Better answer.

Thank's JC.

I quite often read bits of the bible, there is some good stuff in it.:shock:

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He that is not with me is against me.
St Matthew, 12. 30

Now where have i heard that before :?:

mkpdavies · 19-11-2005, 12:30 PM

GW!

There are also some horrible **** in it too, hence the reason I won't be a follower, ever!

You have to be interested in something that millions of people choose to follow though. I still can't quite work out why at the moment.

18-11-2005, 11:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,112 Party: Libertarian Party	Was Matt a reliable source? Or was he the Robbie Williams of the band. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

19-11-2005, 12:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,112 Party: Libertarian Party	Better answer. Thank's JC. I quite often read bits of the bible, there is some good stuff in it. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,112 Party: Libertarian Party	GW! There are also some horrible **** in it too, hence the reason I won't be a follower, ever! You have to be interested in something that millions of people choose to follow though. I still can't quite work out why at the moment. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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18-11-2005, 11:45 PM	#2 (permalink)
Oliver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WHITBY North Yorkshire (but my heart is in Woking) Posts: 1,062	Hello There Matt, You have a gift!!!. As one of those "types" I give you an answer you deserve, from earlier in Matthews Gospel. Make of it what you will. (Matt 7:6) "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you".

19-11-2005, 12:58 AM	#4 (permalink)
Oliver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WHITBY North Yorkshire (but my heart is in Woking) Posts: 1,062	Let us hope he wasn't the MKP Davies of it. thats all.

19-11-2005, 01:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
B.A.Ware Moderator Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Birmingham Posts: 4,629 Party: UKIP	Cant believe for one second Matt has been reading the bible :shock: And if you do read it we should all be stoned to death for working on the Sabbath :shock:

19-11-2005, 01:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
Oliver Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: WHITBY North Yorkshire (but my heart is in Woking) Posts: 1,062	Sorry BA, I am not a Jew, my sabbath is from 00.01 hours to 24.00 hours Sunday = The Lord'sDay)