Naseem Hamed

mkpdavies · 10-11-2005, 08:24 AM

Prince Naseem Hamed was a bit of a hero to me for a while. He was the little arrogant git, who just seemed to be unstoppable in the boxing world for a while. He got married, had a kid and got beaten. I liked him, because he brought a bit of sparkle back to boxing, was proud of being British, while remembering his routes and was an all round good role model.

However he is now making a come back and has just blown all respect I had for him.

Why? Because he has come out and said he will never fight another Muslim. He will fight a fellow Brit, someone of his own colour, or someone from his town, but he won't fight a fellow Muslim.

What kind of message does that send? That Muslims are his brothers, but Britain is just his dossing place?

Screw him, I hope he get's his **** kicked.

kernow · 10-11-2005, 12:42 PM

I used to be a keen boxing fan, but I always thought Prince Naseem Hamed was a one punch wonder and unfortunately like a lot of modern British boxers their reputations are built on fighting has beens and never 'wassers'. I don't think his decision not to box Muslims will do anything for his reputation amongst Muslim boxing fans and will definately not be admired by non-Muslims, the boxing world will just think he's a prat!

John Carter · 10-11-2005, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

Why? Because he has come out and said he will never fight another Muslim. He will fight a fellow Brit, someone of his own colour, or someone from his town, but he won't fight a fellow Muslim.

What kind of message does that send? That Muslims are his brothers, but Britain is just his dossing place?

Getting the message yet Matt?

mkpdavies · 10-11-2005, 01:13 PM

I'm well aware there is an element like that.

It's how big the element is that concerns me. I have friends who are nothing like that, so I am still sticking to my judging of people on their own individual actions.

Hamed has just lowered himself in my opinion.

John Carter · 10-11-2005, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I'm well aware there is an element like that.

It's how big the element is that concerns me.

At this point in time, I believe it to be a majority.

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I have friends who are nothing like that, so I am still sticking to my judging of people on their own individual actions.

Do yourself a favour and ask your friends whether their tithe goes to "poor muslims" or "poor people in general". This is pretty much how to tell which side of the fence they're on.

mkpdavies · 10-11-2005, 01:47 PM

I've asked them all sorts of questions (as have they to me about UKIP etc). I am confident they are good people and on side. However, I would deem my friends as minimal Muslims, as they are not really that dedicated to the cause. They are very westernised and I think each generation that passes, the more westernised their family becomes.

Their parents are more devout, but even they are good people. They don't want Sharia law, even in their place of birth.

John Carter · 10-11-2005, 02:11 PM

Arhh... They sound like "nominal" muslims (in pretty much the same way that the UK is "nominally" Christian). No problem with those sorts at all.
It's the devout ones you have to watch for, because this kind of stuff is what's written in their book:

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Originally Posted by koran, sura 9.29

Fight those among the People of the Book (i.e. Jews and Christians) ... who do not profess the true religion (i.e. islam), until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued.

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Originally Posted by koran, sura 2.216

Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you.

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Originally Posted by koran, sura 3.118

Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people. They (i.e. non-muslims) will not fail to corrupt you. They long for your ruin. Hatred has already shown itself out of their mouths, but more grievous is what their breasts conceal.

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Originally Posted by koran, sura 8.60

Muster against them (i.e. non-muslims) all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror INTO phpbb_the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them who are unknown to you but known to Allah. All that you give in the cause of Allah shall be repaid to you. You shall not be wronged.

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Originally Posted by koran, sura 9.28

Believers, know that the idolaters are unclean.

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Originally Posted by koran, sura 48.29

Mohammed is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.

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Originally Posted by koran, sura 98.6

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of creatures.

Doesn't exactly promote good inter-faith relations, does it? :?

Edward Longshanks · 10-11-2005, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by John Carter

Arhh... They sound like "nominal" muslims (in pretty much the same way that the UK is "nominally" Christian). No problem with those sorts at all.
It's the devout ones you have to watch for, because this kind of stuff is what's written in their book:

Quote:

Originally Posted by koran, sura 9.29

Fight those among the People of the Book (i.e. Jews and Christians) ... who do not profess the true religion (i.e. islam), until they pay tribute out of hand and are utterly subdued.

Quote:

Originally Posted by koran, sura 2.216

Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you.

Quote:

Originally Posted by koran, sura 3.118

Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people. They (i.e. non-muslims) will not fail to corrupt you. They long for your ruin. Hatred has already shown itself out of their mouths, but more grievous is what their breasts conceal.

Quote:

Originally Posted by koran, sura 8.60

Muster against them (i.e. non-muslims) all the men and cavalry at your command, so that you may strike terror INTO phpbb_the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them who are unknown to you but known to Allah. All that you give in the cause of Allah shall be repaid to you. You shall not be wronged.

Quote:

Originally Posted by koran, sura 9.28

Believers, know that the idolaters are unclean.

Quote:

Originally Posted by koran, sura 48.29

Mohammed is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another.

Quote:

Originally Posted by koran, sura 98.6

The unbelievers among the People of the Book and the pagans shall burn forever in the fire of Hell. They are the vilest of creatures.

Doesn't exactly promote good inter-faith relations, does it? :?

Ah the enrichment and the celebration of diversity knows no bounds! :roll:

Percentage · 05-09-2006, 06:22 PM

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FREED NAZ MOANS ABOUT MISSING BIRTH

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Flamboyant boxer Naseem Hamed whined about missing the birth of his third child as he was realeased from jail yesterday.
He had served just 3 1/2 months of a 15 month sentence for dangerous driving in a crash that almost killed driver Anthony Burgin,39 & broke every bone in his body.
Before being swept off in a rollsroyce phantom,the 32 yr old former featherweight champion said "I have just served nearly a 4 month sentence,not seeing the birth of my new born baby.What can i say?It's been hard,but thank god nobody died".

Mr Burgin said he was "very upset" at the stars early release adding "I was expecting Mr Hamed to serve a lot more of his sentence"

Hamed,who runs a property empire & is said to be worth £70 million,left moorland prison in Doncaster at 8:15 am.He punched the air & waved at fellow inmates before hugging & kissing his brothers who waited for him outside.Before driving off to be reunited with his children & wife Eleasha,Hamed said "My heart goes out to Mr Burgin"

Hamed's former manager Brendan Ingle -who steered him from the backstreets of Sheffield to WBA world tile glory-slammed the boxer's exit.
"He should have come out on a donkey,said sorry & eaten a bit of humble pie.Coming out like that in flashy cars is like sticking up two fingers at everybody"

Hamed was realeased after agreeing to wear an electric tag & abide by a curfew at his luxury sheffield home.

FOUR MONTHS! :evil:

This is outragous,what kind of message does this send out to those youths who engage in joy-riding etc or older profesional types who speed along motoways in there powerfull sports cars with too much money than sense?? :?:

This was the perfect opportunity to show that car crimes would not be tolerated anymore! :x

So much for Nu Labours policy of being " tuff on crime" :twisted:

StGeorge · 05-09-2006, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mkpdavies

I've asked them all sorts of questions (as have they to me about UKIP etc). I am confident they are good people and on side. However, I would deem my friends as minimal Muslims, as they are not really that dedicated to the cause. They are very westernised and I think each generation that passes, the more westernised their family becomes.

Their parents are more devout, but even they are good people. They don't want Sharia law, even in their place of birth.

I'd say the younger ones, especially male, are becoming less westernised and more extreme than their parents, it's not always the case as I've met a few young asian lads who are pretty westernised but they havn't an interest in Islam, the others just follow Islam because it gives them street cred with their "brothers" and eventually end up being the "street thug" type terrorising this country with anything from anti-social behaviour to murder or terrorism. Their parents had to try and integrate to get jobs, these "street thug" type lads think they and their belief of Islam is above the law and deserve everything from the infidels who aren't fit to kiss the floor they walk on.

10-11-2005, 08:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,112 Party: Libertarian Party	Naseem Hamed Prince Naseem Hamed was a bit of a hero to me for a while. He was the little arrogant git, who just seemed to be unstoppable in the boxing world for a while. He got married, had a kid and got beaten. I liked him, because he brought a bit of sparkle back to boxing, was proud of being British, while remembering his routes and was an all round good role model. However he is now making a come back and has just blown all respect I had for him. Why? Because he has come out and said he will never fight another Muslim. He will fight a fellow Brit, someone of his own colour, or someone from his town, but he won't fight a fellow Muslim. What kind of message does that send? That Muslims are his brothers, but Britain is just his dossing place? Screw him, I hope he get's his **** kicked. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

10-11-2005, 01:13 PM	#4 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,112 Party: Libertarian Party	I'm well aware there is an element like that. It's how big the element is that concerns me. I have friends who are nothing like that, so I am still sticking to my judging of people on their own individual actions. Hamed has just lowered himself in my opinion. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

10-11-2005, 01:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
mkpdavies Uber Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Woking Posts: 31,112 Party: Libertarian Party	I've asked them all sorts of questions (as have they to me about UKIP etc). I am confident they are good people and on side. However, I would deem my friends as minimal Muslims, as they are not really that dedicated to the cause. They are very westernised and I think each generation that passes, the more westernised their family becomes. Their parents are more devout, but even they are good people. They don't want Sharia law, even in their place of birth. __________________ http://brits4ronpaul.blogspot.com/ http://wokinglibertarians.blogspot.com/ http://lpuk.org My ignore list Labour, Blue Labour, Lib Dems

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10-11-2005, 12:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
kernow Uber Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 5,182	I used to be a keen boxing fan, but I always thought Prince Naseem Hamed was a one punch wonder and unfortunately like a lot of modern British boxers their reputations are built on fighting has beens and never 'wassers'. I don't think his decision not to box Muslims will do anything for his reputation amongst Muslim boxing fans and will definately not be admired by non-Muslims, the boxing world will just think he's a prat!