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Old 13-03-2005, 01:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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A leader takes people where they want to go. A great leader takes people where they don't necessarily want to go but ought to be.
Um ... he/she takes 'em where he/she thinks they ought to be.
Which may not be (and often is not) where they need to be.
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Old 13-03-2005, 01:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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A leader takes people where they want to go. A great leader takes people where they don't necessarily want to go but ought to be.
Um ... he/she takes 'em where he/she thinks they ought to be.
Which may not be (and often is not) where they need to be.
But it does not say where he/she thinks they ought to be. It says where they ought to be.
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But it does not say where he/she thinks they ought to be. It says where they ought to be.
Exactly.
And who is qualified to say where other folks ought to be?
Leaders, great or otherwise have a goal - and that goal they also set for their followers.
That goal is where the leader ought to be if he decides it is right for him to be there.
No leader (or anyone else) has any right to decide what is right for others.
A group of people having a common goal my select a leader to achieve that goal.
Thus, the leader will take them where they think it is right they ought to be.
Thus, the Blair is not a good, let alone a great, leader - he is taking people where he thinks they ought to be - not where we think we ought to be.
This is not leadership - it is dictatorship.
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A ‘Blue nose’ is term you get labelled with if you support Birmingham city.

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A ‘Blue nose’ is term you get labelled with if you support Birmingham city.
I thought 'Blue Nose' was a label attached to Tory voters - who hope for a "Blue Nose Day" in May.
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A ‘Blue nose’ is term you get labelled with if you support Birmingham city.

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